Please help me with Tank Dimension Design

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  1. BushBaBy

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    Hey guys

    I recently moved into my new house on the first of this month and I am slowly getting unpacked and everything is starting to find its spot. Now that I have had a chance to look around the house there is only 2 places I would probably put up my future tank. One is along the one wall of the lounge and the other is as a semi room divider. The room divider option is my definite favorite.

    I have been playing around with a lot of options and measurements but due to there being an "archway" it kind of messes up a few things. I settled on an idea I like but I don't know how practical it is and I thought I would ask you guys.

    I still need to figure out how the overflow and return will work but I will add 2 quick sketches and you so you can get an idea of what I am talking about.

    The Space:
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    The Tank:
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    Do you think the above can work? The tank would be about 1.5 meters from the Dining Room furniture. About 3 meters from the kitchen and about 4 meters from the lounge furniture. Just so you have an idea of the space I have. Also would an overflow/return in the 400mm corner work and how should I design it?

    I would really really appreciate everyone's opinion. Thanks in advance.

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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    it looks good, is the tank design the light blue? irregular tank while doable, arent always practical

    but that will work nicely :thumbup:
     
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    Black = walls
    Blue = tank

    I realize the design isn't regular but really want to make the most of the space. I could always move it out of the archway but I feel like I am wasting space and I don't think it would look as good.
     
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    it will work, can have the reef against the sides covered by the wall, and then open space for swimming and LPS on the bottom
     
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    What practical implications do you foresee?

    This is why I want to ask ahead of time so that I can consider all possible scenarios.

    Thanks.
     
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    Also, would you change the dimensions at all? I have enough space to make it bigger/smaller. I just don't want the walk way narrower than 1000.

    Thoughts?
     
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    actually now that i looked again none, see my suggestion below

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    Nice concept, Only problem I see is your return/overflow (the logical place to put it would be the 400 wall). Also the fact that you want to use it as a room divider will mean you need to put your flow pumps on the 400/300 walls as well, otherwise it won't look nice.

    You may need to move the 400 side away from the wall a bit (10-15cm?) to allow for return piping and to give you enough room to work on it if need be. Then just use some PVC or similar to close the gap between tank and wall.

    Just my thoughts but I am sure more experienced tank builders will chime in soon enough.
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    that way you can hide the wall, and not loose valuable view space
    i left some gaps so that the glass can be cleaned
    what tank height?
    with that size tank, you can have all the goodies underneath
    keep it simple
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    i can also do a full 3d model for you
     
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    I like the idea Dallasg. Where would I put my return/overflow though

    Edit: I was thinking 650 for the height.
     
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    cool, let me do one, gimme 20min or so
     
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    last Q, stand height? i would go with 800mm or 900mm
     
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    Yeah 800 - 900 would work nicely as it would be a great view from the dining room table. My eye level when sitting down is 1300. I think 900 would be best. It leaves nice room to work below as well.
     
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    here is a quick 3d to scale

    bushbaby4.jpg

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    internal overflow

    would need to think flow
     
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    Looks good. I will go remeasure the 1 meter walkway tonight and the height of tank and stand so I can play with ideas in my head. Also need to decide on sump placement and size and how the return will work.

    Will just need to check the supports across the front where the doors will go so that we have easy access.

    Leaving for home now but will be back tomorrow. If anyone has input or ideas please share them. I really appreciate the help!!!
     
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    Relook at space

    So I had a look at the space again last night and I was a little worried about the 1000mm walkway. I know it sounds like a small change but I would much rather change that to a 1100mm walkway to be safe.

    I am very happy with the 900mm stand height and 650mm tank height, It is going to look so stunning from all the surrounding rooms.

    I will attach a new picture of the dimensions I am thinking of going with. I am much happier with these dimensions, although I think the 190mm gap between the wall and tank is probably to much for all the plumbing but it is all well hidden (I am not sure how much compensation I need to make for it but the 300x300 corner for some reason seemed to make sense).

    How much space should between the wall and tank (190mm side) and where should I place my overflow/return? Having no experience in this I am struggling to think how to design the the overflow, sump and return. I would really appreciate some guidance on this.

    With the modifications to the dimensions the DT volume is at around 600 liters which is about 50 liters more than the old dimensions.

    New Tank Dimensions:

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    Thanks!
     
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    Why loose the 190mm space? Drill the tank bottom and fit the pipes out the bottom. Like the normal old style box corner overflow. Would work very good in the back corner. Skimmer would be in the corner.

    Flow pumps could all be located against the sides that is against the walls. Just think about which pumps you want to use. Magnet mounts and Vortech pump motors fits to the outside.
    @dallasg you can now upload Sketchup design to MASA. Just like you do pictures. So much easier.
     
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    i says i wouild U size tank.
     
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