Patience is the name of this game!

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  1. silvano14

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    Ok so where do I begin.

    About a year ago I started becoming interested in an aquarium.

    I ordered and 3 meter tank and then ran out of patience as it took forever.
    I purchased a small Nano tank and started enjoying the tank. 2 Clown fish, an anemone, 1 camel shrimp, Polp rock, and box shrimp.

    In the meantime the progress with my 3 meter was tediously slow.

    When it was finally finished I decided to fill it. It leaked so they came out to fix the leak. I wanted to keep a mix of predator as well as non predator fish. I therefore inserted a division in the middle with a gap at the bottom so the water could move between the divisions.

    Anyway they fixed the leak and my eagerness or not enough bracing lead to it bursting four hours after it was filled. I now know it is about 10cm of water in my house if this occurs.

    Anyway they came out again replaced 3 of the 4 panes and then I waited 1 month before filling it.

    I filled it waited a week then added salt.

    It has two 50mm overflows in each corner leading to a 1,5meter sump. With an under over filter. Fine filter media to catch the larger particles of dirt. Then course crushed coral, 4 bags on each side. It is duplicated for each overflow.

    In the middle there are 2 skimmers and two return pumps.

    I then put in about 60kg of salt. Waited for the salt to be right and then purchased some live rock. Well about 200kg of live rock.

    Waited for that to settle and then let my patience got the better of me again. I am not going to say anymore but just say it was a very expensive and sad lesson.

    The only survivor well other than for the 4 cleaner shrimps, 4 camel shrimps, 2 hermit crabs, polp rock, and two boxer shrimps was a blue ribbon eel. Strange I though they are super delicate.

    Anyway the tank was started on the 3rd of July 2007.

    The central division was removed and it is now one large three meter tank. The live rock is all on one side and there is about 0.5m-1m of empty swimming space on the left.

    After the loss of all the fish the only things left in the tank were the shrimps and eel. I was overseas for the month of October and left the tank with only them inside.

    About 2 months ago I slowly started to add fish again.

    I purchased a Yellow mimic tang and a foxface.

    Again my luck was not there. The yellow mimic tang just did not eat and unfortunately also passed away.

    Currently in the tank there is the following:
    3 camel shrimps
    4 cleaner shrimps
    1 blue ribbon eel
    1 hermit crab
    2 star fish
    A few turban snails
    1 foxface
    1 powder blue tang
    1 brown sail fin tang
    2 african clowns.
    2 blennies
    1 bicolour angel
    1 coral beauty
    3 yellow tail damsels
    1 polp rock
    1 maize brain colour (I think)
    2 clams

    Changes made,

    I have added 2 dsbs in two 75liter buckets.
    There is about 30cm of free space at the bottom. Then an under gravel filter with filter material. Than about 30cm of fine crushed coral on top.

    One bucket is linked to the next one and the first bucket has a lid on it, the second one will get a light fitted at a later stage.

    This returns to the sump directly above one of the pumps that goes back into the main display.

    There is a self filling ro machine attached.

    Pictures will follow shortly as I added a bucket of Kent Marine biosediment earlier today and the tank is rather milky.

    Light wise. There are 3 T5 fittings with 1X Blue acintic tube 54W and 2X normal white tubes 54W.

    I also have 2 T5 fitting with 2X blue acintic tube 34W and 2X normal white tubes 34W
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    There is also a 150w metal halide on the one side. More to follow at a later stage.

    Well that is that.

    Let me know what you guys think.

    While I have the time I am going to upload some pics excuse the milky water.
     
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    Did you brake a mirror? I hope things go better this time.
     
  4. silvano14

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    Seems like a few of them!!!
     
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    Shaun Retired Moderator

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    What are your plans for livestock?
    How deep is the 3m tank?
     
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    Hey Silvano sorry to hear that things have been so tough.

    Glad you stuck with it and I'm sure things will get better from here ;)

    Lets see those pics :)
     
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    Hey Sylvano, now that you found MASA it can only go better;)

    Good luck further
     
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    Wow get in there, 3m tank. piccies are needed, help will follow:thumbup:
     
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    Damn that is a run of bad luck, so far it sounds good and you doing all the right things, pics will be a gr8 help from an advice point of view, remember we need pics of the engine room aswell.
     
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    Sounds good so far.

    What do you mean by this? Does your RO unit feed the tank directly or have you got a separate container with RO water that you use for top-ups?
     
  12. silvano14

    silvano14 Thread Starter

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    Hi Talion,

    Livestock is to keep as much as possible. Well that's the idea. I would like to keep both corals and fish and invertebrates. Yes I know I am asking a lot.

    Depth is 750mm which is a bit deep for me as I am height challenged!! :lol:
     
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    Hi Viper.

    I have added my ro machine to a toilet flush mechanism. That way when the level drops slightly it will drip new water into the sump. I was loosing about 70-80liters of water a week due to evaporation. Got tired of making water the whole wekeend and then by Friday it was finished.
     
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    So as promised some pics.

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    The Room is too small and I can't walk through the wall to get a straight tank shot. SORRY!!:)

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    Oh yes.

    My Bicolour Angel is eating my brain coral so he has to go.

    Any ideas on how I could catch him.
     
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    750 is nice and deep. You might want to consider upgrading the 150mh. Just take it slow and try plan compatible coral and fish.
    Make a list of things you would like to put in your tank and then find out more about them ie light requirements, flow, reef safe etc.

    Try not impulse buy.
     
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    Nothing wrong with that Silvano.

    What you want to watch out for is detritus that will settle in your substrate. Being coarse like that particle waste will settle and sift it's way to the bottom and decay. This will become a nutrient sink over time that will lead to nuisance algae issues etc.
    As part of your regular maintanence regime use a power head, held in your hand and angle it into your substrate, blowing all the crap out. Some will settle back in again, but hopefully most will get swept up into your overflow and onto your skimmer.
    The "storm" will also be a great food source for your coral ;)
     
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    Hi Anthony

    Thanks. I try to stir up the bottom with a "rake" so that the particle waste does settle there.

    Will get an extra powerhead.

    Thanks.
     
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    howsit and welcome!!
    I would love to see some pics of the blue ribboneel please!! one of my favorie fish !!how is he feeding?
     
  20. silvano14

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    Hi Calvin,

    Well the blue ribbon I am worried about.

    Let me explain why:

    From what I have read the blue ribbon eel starts out black as a juvenile. He then becomes blue as an adult and finally turns a pink colour. (Correct me if I am worng)

    Well mine started out been blue then went black. So I am really confused.

    He eats well. I feed him every two-three days lance fish. He will eat 2-3 full lance fish in a feed. The only way to ensure he eats the fish and the shrimps don’t eat the fish is to hand feed the fish to him. He is quiet good and takes from my fingers.

    He did not eat for a few days last week then ate 4 lance fish on Friday night so I stopped worrying.

    I will try to get some pictures of him, but normally it is just his head that sticks out.

    Will try take some pictures when the lights go on over the weekend as I find he usually comes out then. Long after I have left. He must be almost a meter long.
     
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    Hi there guys.

    SO I thought it was time for an update.

    I have made a few changes.

    1. The coarse coral has gone and has been replaced with a fine coral.

    2. Re-aquascaped the rocks. I think it's an improvement.

    Will also look at gluing some of the smaller rocks together so that I can make the rocks do what I want. Pratley putty and very easy on it was the advice given earlier today.

    My urchin is a good rock organiser, problem is my eel doesn't like it!!

    So the photos of the tank as promised, followed by some of the inhabitants!
     
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