Ozone enriched and Bottled ro water qeustion

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  1. Franske

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    Since my little tank wil only be consuming less than 10 liters of ro water per month ive decided to go with the option of bottled water,is there any ro water someone would recomend to buy since petshops selling ro water is too far away,there is a bottled ro water on the market I know of but it is ozone enriched,what effect whil this have on the tank and is it ussable?
     
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  3. Johan van Aardt

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    my suggestion get to the closest oasis to you, they keep their water lower than 20 tds, usually around 1-5. thats were i get my water. there is one in strand as far as i know.
     
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    Most shopping centres have an RO station. My spar has just put in a new Oasis unit. Rather find a new one. But test the TDS - I am not 100% happy using these because dont they remineralise the water? Or is the TDS still low enough?
     
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    normal Ro machines remineralise the water, oasis doesnt however do that....... thats why i use oasis for my water
     
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    So is it better to use water that is not remineralised,its the oasis bottled water im talking about,on the label they say it is ozone enriched,is this stil okay to use then
     
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    yeah it is still ok to use
     
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    As far as i know ozone ( o3 ) is verry unstable and quickly converts bak to oxygen (o2) so once opened if you want to be sure drop a airstone on the drum for 10min and it should be fine.
     
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    OKay so the water i can get from my local store has the following chemical composition so please tell me if this is okay to use for top ups and water changes,wil try to get ro water from a lfs aswell from time to time when I go to cape town

    all is in mg/l

    Calcium 0.11-0.33
    magnesium 0.09-0.54
    Sodium 1.15-6.9
    Potassium 0.29-1.74
    Chloride 1.99-6.90
    Sulphate 0.31-1.86
    Alkalininty 3.01-3.06
    Nitrate 0.6-3.6
    flouride 0.00-0.06
    iron 0.00-0.69
    aluminium 0.00-0.06
    TDS 6-29
    ph 6.4-7.3

    PLease tell me if any of these parameters are way over board,I know the tds and nitrate is a bit high but I have started up mu tank with this water and cycling for 2 weeks now and all seems fine,already getting tube worms growing on my pumps
     
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    any help?
     
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    any advice plz guys need to know what to do and if this water is usable
     
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    Hi Franske,

    I'm no expert with this by any stretch of the immagination but I know that ammonia, nirtite and nitate are very bad for the inhabitants of the tank. The water "specs" that you gave looks rather high nitrate 's - but thats just my 2 cents worth
     
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    Id rather stick to my 0 tds water
     
  14. Johan van Aardt

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    please remember that as oasis is a national brand that label is nationalised and you will find that in most cases it is on the lower side of that scale
     
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    Only problem is that tap water in my area is about 65 to 70.

    Their range of upto 29, is water purified only about 50%.

    Other problem is that you do not know when they replaced their filter units. So yes, maybe this time when you fetched water, the TDS is 6. But next month? So I would suggest to test that TDS every time.

    Lastly, what makes that TDS of 6-29? Is it good or bad particles? 29 as in copper, NO.


    Ozone, O3 is extremely unstable. The most corrosive agent out there. I doubt if it will even be in your bottle as O3, within 10 minutes of bottling the water. Never mind even opening it. Also O3 is extremely dangerous to your health. But you can drink that water directly after opening. Just to proof my point.
    O3 got a faint smell to it, as if something is rotting, orange whatever. Actually it does not smell at all. That what you smell is actually the slime layers and skin in your nose being broken down and decomposed by the O3. The moisture in your nose reacting to the O3. YIKES. Also your eyes will feel scratchy, same thing, the O3 reacting with the tears in your eyeballs, breaking it down.

    So what will happen with your water at TDS of 29, is that it will provide a lot of minerals the O3 can combine to easily. Breaking complex down into simpler chemical compounds. And these would be easier for your skimmer to remove it. So I would reckon if you want to use this O3 purified water, add it to your skimmer compartment.

    I got no documents or links to back the last statement up, about skimmer compartment. Just what I know about running Ozone on your tank, and normally the skimmer is used as Ozone chamber.
     
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    can you please post the source of this information.

    ozone does have a very distinct smell.
     
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    the power of Google - Ozone Smell

    Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 2: Equipment and Safety by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone"]Ozone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Ozone-CRC-MW-3D-balls.png" class="image"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Ozone-CRC-MW-3D-balls.png/120px-Ozone-CRC-MW-3D-balls.png"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/8/8c/Ozone-CRC-MW-3D-balls.png/120px-Ozone-CRC-MW-3D-balls.png[/ame]
    How does ozone smell and when can you smell it? - Yahoo! Answers
    http://www.negativeiongenerators.com/ozone-good_or_bad.html
     
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    I know ozone hasa smell, i checked its MSDS to be sure...but in your previous post you said it didnt have a smell and the smell it generated was actually that of rotting tissue?
     
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    btw guys, all oasis are required to take daily readings of tds and they all have tds meters you can ask them to take a tds reading in front of you if you wish
     
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    sorry 459b

    yip, smell is actually faint. But if you put the airline tube from ozone unit under your nose, most of what you are actually smelling is your nose internals reacting to the ozone. Please do not do it, as it is dangerous.

    I did it out of stupidity. Did not know if unit was working when I got it, actually sucked on the airline tube. Was not nice. Had to down a beer to get rid of the taste in my mouth. Later I read up that it was actually the saliva in my mouth reacting to the O3.
     
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    no probem. Just dont want anyone reading t oget confused.

    Surprised you can still taste after sucking it.
     
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