Our incredible journey TAKE 1

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  1. Goby

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    Helooooooo MASA members!!

    Me and my Dad finally got started on our incredible marine journey. :thumbup:

    A few weeks back we bought a full marine setup from one of the masa members.
    Very Happy with our purchase and ja let me give you some details.

    Tank
    Aqua H2O : 1500mm(l) x 500mm(w) x 750mm(h) Water height = 650mm

    Sump
    1000mm(l) x 300mm(w) x 400mm(h)

    Sump divided in 3 chambers (Modded the original sump)
    The original sump had 5 chambers. They were filled with ceramic rings and sponges.
    We removed all that. Don't want any problems with ditrus build up in the long run.

    Chamber 1: Overflow & Weipro SA2015 Skimmer (2700l/h Pump)
    I know that this skimmer is not the best and will upgrade when i fix the hole in my pocket:)
    Chamber 2: DSB - 100mm Reggies playsand topped with 30mm Aragonite (Total height 130mm) DSB = 400mm x 300mm
    Chamber 3: Buyo 10000l/h return pump (Water return to closed loop system)

    My concern is that the flow over the DSB might be to fast? Please advice on this and suggestion will be greatly appreciated!

    Lightning:
    4x T5 54W (2x white and 2x actinics) Don't know the kelvin ratings as the details are not on the bulps anymore.

    FLOW:
    1x Buyo SP2500 (2000l/h Powerhead)
    1x 10000l/h return pump into closed loop system

    We still have to ad a few more power heads for optimal flow.

    HEATERS:
    2x 300w Jager Heaters

    In the DT we have regggies playsand as substrate. We still have to add the live rock later this week. Its a mission to get egg crates.

    The DT and sump is filled and now running. the only parameters i can give you now is.

    Salanity = 1.026

    I'll post some pics soon!
     
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  3. inflames

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    Look forward to the pics! Dont know much about Closed loop systems...so wont comment on the flow on that!
     
  4. Apollo

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    Hey Goby,

    Sounds like you're off to a good start:thumbup:

    Insofar the DSB is concerned:

    Your sandbed should be approx 150mm deep at the least. Unless I'm misunderstanding you , your DSB is only 13mm deep at present ?

    Your flow over the DSB may be a bit too much. You need to aim for a flow of 3-4 water turnover.

    Just a thought
     
  5. Goby

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    Very nice Goby - great start
     
  7. Goby

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    Hay Apollo, i agree, the flow is way to much. Can i put a valve on the overflow pipe to reduce the overflow and then put in a smaller pump for the return. That should work? Is that 3-4 times the water volume of your DT or DT + Sump? Sorry i made a mistake on the DSB. It's 130mm deep.
     
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  8. Goby

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    The Sump before
    Took out most of the baffles.[​IMG]
    Putting one baffle to complete the DSB[​IMG]
     
  9. Annoying

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    Great start keep us posted and tell us what are you thinking of adding coral and fish wise!
     
  10. Sentari

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    Nice one Goby! keep it coming and ask questions! Something ive learnt since being here. Dont be scared to ask even if you think they stupid questions!
     
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    Goby,

    The 3-4 times water turnover I'm referring to is for the sump and not the DT.
    You want the water in the sump to flow slowly over the DSB so as to maximise biological filtration benefits.

    Yes, you could put a valve in the o/flow pipe and install a smaller return pump , eg. 1000-1500 lph or so .
    I do not have experience with CLS systems , so best we wait for more knowledgeable members to reply to this.
     
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    A bubble trap would be a good thing also. Have a look at my sump on my thread.
     
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    My tank is 1200 x 450 x 450 and i'm running a 2000l/h return. Also make sure you take headloss into account.
     
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    Yes flow over DSB is to much.
    Calculation your DT and sump is about 480 + 90, giving total 570 water volume.
    3-4 times over DSB is 1710 - 2280 pump at height of return. Your return should I be at about 1.5 or 1.6 judging by the picture. So look for a pump that on its graph pushes about 2000L at the height of 1.5m

    What is that blue pipe in DT. Hope it is not your water return line.
    If it is you will syphon the tank EMPTY when the power goes. (Yeah Eskom). It must be just under water level. Else ensure that the syphon break hole is never blocked.

    Closed loop? Do not see it. That is where you pull water from Display to pump and directly back to display. No open points.
     
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    Goby,

    What silicone are you using? Hope its marine silicone?

    Looking good there - keep us posted on the progress
     
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    With RiaanP on this one - hope that blue pipe is not the return. what is that pipe for?
     
  17. Goby

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    Hi RaainP. Thanks for the DSB flow detail. Yes that blue pipe WAS the water return line :whistling: it was just temporarily for testing. As for the closed loop system, we only finished it last night. Will post some pics of that.
     
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    Hi Goby,
    So nice to see more "locals" on MASA....

    You've got a nice setup going here.
    But I'll make the DSB a bit deeper - at least 150-200mm!
    You can use Reggies play sand for that - no need to go for more aragonite, as it is way to expensive!;)
    And personally I don't see the real benefit using aragonite in a DSB.

    Good luck with your journey!
     
  19. Goby

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    Yes, its Bostik Marine silicone.
     
  20. Tony

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    Nice going there. The water is nice and clear and off to a good start
     
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    With reference to your DSB, it is always nice to ask a fellow reefer in your area for a cup of their established DSB in order to seed your DSB ....

    What are you thinking of in terms of LR (how many KG's / cured / uncured / type) .... the value of good LR should never be under-estimated ... looks great so far :thumbup:
     
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