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  1. Zuna

    Zuna

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    Hey Ladies and Gents

    Im a newbie to marine Aquriums and need some advise on the equipment ect that i world need.

    I have a 6ft +- 600l tank with a built in filter that ive been using as a fresh water predator tank and i would like to convert it to a marine tank.

    equipment that i have is as follows:
    6ft tank
    2x dolphine canister filters
    2x 200w heaters
    2x crushed coral sand

    please feel free to add any comments or advise thanks
     
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  3. werner5

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    masahello

    hi welcome to masa ask alot and read alot hope you enjoy your stay :slayer:
     
  4. jacquesb

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    Hi Zuna - A VERY WARM WELCOME to MASA! Great to have you onboard!

    OK - it all depends what exactly you want to keep, and how much (and how - short term or long term) you want to spend.

    You should be easily be able to keep a fish only, with live rock (FOWLR) tank, with the same stuff you have now - with the addition of a sump, skimmer, and some power-heads....

    BUT, as soon as you want to go specialist with corals, other invertebrates, anemone's, etc - then you will have to up the ante...... QUITE A BIT....

    See - your water nutrient levels does not HAVE to be as close as possible to 0 (zero), with only fish in the tank (not that the fish should be kept in water with high nutrient values as such - it is just that fish can slowly adapt so slightly higher nutrient levels - where as invertebrates, corals, anemone's etc, are not tolerant of these higher nutrient levels.
    The same goes for lighting..... fish do no require high intensity lighting - like what corals require.....

    So - if you have decided what you want to do - then, you can look at the following options, using your existing tank (you can always look at selling your tank and get a better fitting tank, if you so wish):
    1) you have to either get your tank drilled, or get a siphon overflow system, to supply water to the sump and/or skimmer
    2) you will HAVE to get rid of the sponges and current in-tank filtration media...
    3) you will have to think about the substrate of your tank - you would preferably want a DSB (deep sand bed) - of which the sand particles is between 0.05mm and 1mm in size.... and - where the sand-bed is at least between 120mm and 150mm deep....
    4) you will have to investigate marine aquarium type power-heads/pumps (those that supplies a very broad dispersed subtle stream of water - not a direct jet stream....)... investigate SEIO, TUNZE, SUNSUN, RESUN power-heads...
    5) regarding skimmers: the "brands" you would preferably want to investigate, are: ReefOctopus, ReefTek, Bubble Magus, Tunze, AquaMedic, Deltec (skimmers vary between R1500 and as high as R20000 - depends on what your budget allows you). Yes - there are cheaper skimmers on the market - and by all means - you CAN start off with those. But - believe me (as I have done it) - you WILL end up perhaps a year, perhaps 2 years down the line - going for a skimmer between R3000 and R5000 - unfortunately these do offer the best performance for money....
    6) you sump only has to be a 3 compartment sump.... one for the inlet from the tank, and the skimmer, one for a DSB, and one for the return pump/plumbing from the sump back into the tank.....

    PLEASE READ AS MUCH AS YOU CAN...

    You will see - there's a HUGE learning curve - BUT IT IS WORTH IT IN THE END!

    Good luck - enjoy your journey into marines!
     
  5. Tony

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    Welcome to MASA. I would strongly suggest getting a sump in placew of canister filters
     
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  7. Zuna

    Zuna Thread Starter

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    thanks make alot of sense... im planing a fish only tank with some live rocks and dead or drie coral as decor
     
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    :welcometomasa2: Fish only tanks are sweet, but I bet you 100 bucks in six months time you will have some coral in there. :p
     
  9. Zuna

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    LOL... probably will:p can i run the canister and the sump filer at the same time.
    any advise on a wet dry filter system been watching LA Fish guy and talks about one in a fish only aquarium
     
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    Zuna build a nice sump, have a look some of the forums to get a idea, and for the canister it will make a nice flower pot. :lol:
     
  11. brentnorm

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    Or you could use the canister for mechanical filtration. ie; purigen, phosguard, carbon or any one of these equivelants. Just don't put in filter wool unless you are going to change it every 2 days.
     
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    Hi and a very warm welcome!! You have certainly come to the right place for advice and guidance!!

    You can use the canister for carbon filtration.. . I would recommend building a sump for other types of filtration and to hide all you equipment in. These are just some of the benefits of a sump!!
     
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    Welcome to MASA!!
     
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    zuna welcome
     
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    Mekaeel Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Welcome to MASA Zuna :)
     
  16. crispin

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    Hey Zuna:)

    welcome to MASA and well done on starting to switch to the more enjoyable side of fish keeping. I promise marines are incredibly rewarding and great fun:)

    there is alot for you to learn and think about, and we will do all we can to help from MASA, but please take a while to read through forums on starting tanks and sumps.....there is a wealth on info that you will never get repeated in any other place. Generally some member at some time has done all the stupid things we want to help you avoide, so read up on MASA's mistakes and you will be well on the way.


    I hear what you say about wanting a FOWLR to start and that is indeed a good place to start with marines, but be warned, most people (99.5%) want inverts at a short stage afterwards and building in aditional filtration or lights that allows you to keep these creatchures does not detract from the FOWLR system (indeed it improves the water quality and thus the Fishes lives and colours) but also allows you to add corals at a later stage.

    think about that sump and how to do it, a well planned sump pays dividends in the long run :)

    welcome to masa and happy posting:)
     
  17. Zuna

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    Thanks for all the response Guys:thumbup:
     
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    Welcome to MASA Zuna, hope you enjoy it here. Please read the link in my signature for some great beginner info on how to start a marine tank. Please be patient and double check all advice from a petshop with us here on MASA before buying anything - it might save you a lot of money ;)
     
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