New WARR Tank

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  1. Warr7207

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    So I found a piece of real estate in my house that is begging for a tank :D

    I could fit in a 2700 wide tank with one viewing Pane.

    I am thinking a shallower tank than the War Machine, meaning I can run lower wattage MH and loads of T5's - height -500mm, so water should be around 450mm in height.

    I would like to have 700-800mm in depth, with this height tank should be OK ??

    The tank will be mounted on a 50-60mm steel stand with the usual galvanising/acid dip treatments.

    The sump/skimmer/scrubber will all be in the area next to this room, so I need to start thinking of how to drill walls.:wacko:

    I will definitely want a CLS with outlets on the back pane and with in the reef.

    I would prefer a canopy-less tank, so going need to get idea on bracing etc. to make this look good

    Want to look at Overflow options, either a C2C or maybe looking at making the entire side pane a thin overflow pane, similar to the Idol Marine tanks.

    This project is a long term one so I am going take it slow week by week and see how we go.

    Couple of Q's

    Any issues with the water height I am considering ?

    Any issues with the tank depth I am considering ?

    Could I run the Polario pump for my CLS ? It is 22000L/h

    When planning a CLS is there any specifics or just try get as much flow around the tank as possible ?

    Is it possible to do a tank this size Rimless ?

    What sort of weight would this tank be (need to know for the stand design)?

    Do I need to be concerned about my house's foundations handling this weight ?

    Love any suggestions/comments :thumbup:

    And Kanga, time to get those sketch-up skills out :whistling:
     
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  3. Punk

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    dude! sounds awesome man, i love shallow reefs!!! :thumbup:

    Any issues with the water height I am considering ?
    no problem, might look like a frag tank @ 450, perhaps go 500mm at least :p

    Any issues with the tank depth I am considering ?
    very nice, the wider the better

    Could I run the Polario pump for my CLS ? It is 22000L/h
    definitely

    When planning a CLS is there any specifics or just try get as much flow around the tank as possible ?
    should mainly just be used to get flow under your LR, too laminar for in-tank flow except if combined with SCWD / ocean's motion / computer controller, pumps ae also usually a bit noisy and heavy on power compared to tunze's / vortech's

    Is it possible to do a tank this size Rimless ?
    might be a problem only because of the 2700mm length, the hight is fine but check with adriaan to be sure, perhaps it's possible if you go the 2 x 12mm laminate route (if you want to go starfire)

    What sort of weight would this tank be (need to know for the stand design)?
    not sure but i would reckon at least 2 ton if you consider water volume being about 1100kg, glass depending on thickness say another 500kg, LR another 200kg etc.

    Do I need to be concerned about my house's foundations handling this weight ?
    not sure hey?

    can't wait for the updates!

    cheers
    ant
    :)
     
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    Dude that sounds AWESOME!
     
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    Sounds good. The tank may be a little out of proportion with the 700 depth and 500 high because the veiwing area may be a little small. I would go for a 1000mm high stand to bring the tank up to eye level so you're not looking down on the tank
     
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    Thanks Tony, I will have this sort of height stand
     
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    Cool. When do you want to come over and we can look at one another's tanks?
     
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    You around this afternoon ?
     
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    Warr, since there is only one viewing side, rimless won't make a diff, I would brace back top and corners and leave the front free. There is a possibility u might need to middle braces coz of the length.

    I would also have a depth of 800 and height of 550 with water at 500, as for the stand it depends on the couch in front, my stand is 600mm and tank is 600mm high, but the couch is a low 3 seater and view is perfect. We can meet for a beer this weekend or week to chat
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    Thanks Dallas, sooner rather than later ;)
     
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    sounds like a super set up warr! with your sizes i do agree that the shallow tank will look a bit out of proportion and you would be losing out. maybe go 600 high and the water at 550? you could still run lower wattage lights. alan is runnin 150mhs on his tank and i think the tank is 700 deep. will your tank sit in the room against the wall or built into it? why only one viewable plane if i may ask?
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    Yes. What time do you want to come through? Then we can make a plan to come over to see your setup/s.
     
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    If its after 3 I can swing past ur place too warr
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    Yeah at the end of the room, with two walls on either side. I am tied of cleaning side panes of coralline :whistling:
     
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    Around 2-ish ;)
     
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    No prob, swing by I give you a call, when back from Tony's
     
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    Warr with regards to your foundations its pretty hard to say, if the house is older than 15 years i would say it would be cool, some older houses had a 150mm concrete slab, if the house is new then maybe core the slab to check for thickness. However if your stand is done right to disperse the weight evenly you should be fine.
    Check for cracks in the wall's around the chosen area if you find a few that are wider than 0.75mm then maybe get someone in, any crack 1mm and up as far as i am concerned is reason to be concerned.
    Also speak to sean koekemoer he is a builder too, if i remember correctly he might have a bit of input.

    Please note those are my views on your question about your houses foundations.

    Good luck tank sounds wicked
     
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    Thanks Tridan. Totally makes sense. My house is younger than 15 years, so I will investigate.

    PS: Not many houses in JHB left that are older than 15 :whistling:
     
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    Warren: I might not be in the fishkeeping game at the moment but I hope I catch an invite when you get this going?? Would dig to help out!
     
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    Most definitely Matt, you have loads of knowledge that I would love be include in the tank build.

    Once I have most of the ideas sorted, I think we have a quick Beer and Braai with all the guys that normally get involved and finalise the ideas before I make too many mistakes :whistling:
     
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    See you then:thumbup:
     
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