New Marine Aquarium

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  1. Joc

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    Hi all,
    Have just joined and read some of your postings from clearly(no pun intended) knowledgeable marine keepers.
    I have had a 1.2m standard cabinet tank for some years but as a result of ignorance on my part did not have the correct equipment(nt even a protein skimmer) or pay enouge attention.
    I have watched the tank be gradually reduced to a salt water container, devoid of life.
    Anyway I have now decided to go for a re-do and as I am writing this my tank is getting drilled to incorporate a sump filter and I shall be purchasing various items including sump, protein skimmer, and pumps etc.
    I am planning a tank to include rock(some live), soft coral and fish. i.e. similar to what one sees off our north coast and Moz.
    One of the most important items I need is lighting(T5 and MH) and it seems these are extremely expensive.
    Does anyone have any suggestions to maybe reduce the cost on lighting?
    I would be most grateful for any other suggestions on setup and equipment etc.
     
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  3. DragonReef

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    Hi Joc and welcome to MASA.

    Unfortuneatly as with most things in this hobby lighting can be pretty expensive.
    The light spectrum that is suitable for our use is very specialised and as such nothing is locally manufactured.
    The good news is that in recent years it has gotten better in terms of availability and price.

    Do check with our sponsors as to what they can offer.
    Also lighting wholesalers will carry things such as ballasts and fittings which can be used for aquarium lighting.
    Be sure to get a decent reflector for which ever type of lighting you decide on. You going to be out laying hard earned cash on trying to give your corals as much light as possibe and it's senseless to waste any of it.
    Light shines up, which is the exact opposite direction that we need :)
    A decent reflector will enhance light by as much as 30%
     
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    Alan Admin MASA Contributor

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    Hi Joc welcome to MASA, great that you redoing it properly this time round.
     
  5. palmerc

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    Hi Joc,

    For lighting and what you are planning on keeping, I would go with T5 lighting.

    4 x 54W (4 foot) tubes will be perfect for your size tank.

    If you want to DIY it then, you can purchase the ballasts from most electrical wholesalers (a dual ballast running two bulbs is around R180.). Add reflectors (preferably indivdual) and you are sorted.

    If you start wanting to keep more light demanding corals (some LPS and most SPS) you would probaly need to upgrade this basic set-up a little.

    use good quality tubes (Giessemann, ATI) not the cheapest but worth the money.
     
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    Welcome Joc! Great that you are thinking of upgrading/improving (at least your are going onwards and not stopping the hobby!)

    Good luck with your decisions - in the end, it's your art-work, and your journey.....
    You have to make a LOT of decisions, and decide what is "value for money" - as with everything else in life there are the Rolls-Royce of lighting/skimmers/pumps/etc... or there are the VW's.... Then you get your DIY's :)

    Many people have off-the-shelf (pre-built) lighting units - these are generally QUITE expensive- they look bloody good, but are expensive.... then there's the difference between Metal Halides and T5's - a lot of the people in the US, UK and mainlaind Europe are starting to move over to using ONLY T5's, instead of Metal Halides.... T5 globes don't generally last as long as the Metal Halide globes, BUT are far cheaper (generally)....

    You must decide how and what you want to keep. For Fish Only you do not require ANY specialized lighting - just the cheap and basic T8's would do. For (mostly) soft-corals a lot of T8's or fewer T5's would do well...... For Soft-corals/LPS corals, a lot more T5's or perhaps Metal Halides would work.... for SPS MOSTLY a LOT LOT T5's and/or Metal Halides would work well (actually required).....

    So - sit down - look at what you are prepared (and can) spend - and then decide what you want to keep - then bring the two together, and go out and purchase the correct lighting. You can always change or upgrade later-on - even though this will cost you extra money in the end.....

    So, good luck! And keep up enlightened with photographs!
     
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    Mike Retired Moderator

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    Welcome back Joc, good luck with the restart.
     
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    Welcome JOC, time to have some fun :thumbup:
     
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    Welcome ! Where abouts are you based ? Maybe some reefers in your area have some 2nd hand equipment to get started with. I agree with palmerc here, the pre-built lighting systems are not cheap. Not by a long shot. DIY is the answer here. Get 2 reflectors, tubes and a ballast and it will save you a bundle. Good luck with the restart. Make sure to ask the sponsors for equipment before rushing off to a petshop. More often than not they (the sponsors) are way cheaper. Make sure to ask plenty of questions, even if you think it is not relevant. The only way to learn is to ask.
     
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    Welcome Joc, no doubt you will enjoy your stay and get the best advice possible from our members.
     
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    Kanga Retired Moderator MASA Contributor

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    welcometomasa Joc

    Ask all the questions you need to
     
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    welcome to the neighbourhood joc
     
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    Joc? Any updates? How are you getting along?
     
  14. Joc

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    Hi Jacques and thanks for your message. Not done much yet but I have got the tank back from drilling. It looks like a 40 or 50mm hole in the bottom with weir. Do I now silicone a piece of pipe in this or is there a fitting I can buy to attach plumbing pipe?
    Rgds, Joc
     
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    Hi Smithers,
    I am based in Paulshof.
    I have found a shop where I can buy 1.2m T5 fittings(will need reflector) as well as 150w MH lamps(R550 ea) so will probably start modifiying the top housing to accomodate these. Am thinking 2 x MH and 3 x T5, one being blue. Any comments?
    Cheers,
    Joc
     
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    Protein Skimmer

    Following on my initial posting as well as replies from many. My sincere thanks for these.
    I will shortly be purchasing a sump which seems a fairly standard device to fit under my cabinet type tank.
    However, I need to buy a protein skimmer for a 1.2 m tank. I just don't know which is good and which to avoided. Could anyone offer suggestions?

    Many thabks,
    Joc
     
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    That will be a nice lighting combination.

    How many litres total is your sump and tank and do you want a skimmer to go inside your sump or an external skimmer?
     
  18. Joc

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    About 250l net of rock. I would like the skimmer in the sump
     
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    viper357 Admin MASA Contributor

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    I reckon a Reeftek TS1 or TS2 would be good, not too sure about any other skimmers.
     
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    yes Agreed a TS 2 or an AM 1000 are good choices
     
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    viper357 Admin MASA Contributor

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    What about that new AM Blue, what are they rated for?
     
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