new in this need some guidance

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  1. jaw

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    I would like to start a marine aquarium and am looking at getting a Weipro magic wave 102 aquarium, 100 liter unit. Is this the right way to start as the unit has all included.
    I am looking forward to getting some feedback.

    Thanks

    JAW
     
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  3. crispin

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    hello jaw:)

    great to have you on masa, its a winderful site to really get your teeth into marines and we will help you along all the way :)

    there really is a lot to learn and it gets a little confising at times, so dont stress if it does, just ask us and we will help you through.

    to be honest i dont know that tank, but i fear it comes without a sump and is ptobably a little small for a beginner. Small tanks BIG problems.

    can we start this way? what sort of tank would you like to achieve? do you have a picture in your mind of what it looks like? maybe that way we can help you work towards that goal?

    ask as much as you can and read read and read. the more you know the better this hobby becomes: )
     
  4. Jaak

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    Welcome to MASA!!
     
  5. RiaanP

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    Hello and Welcome.

    Remember, bigger systems are easier to keep stable. Smaller systems are good, and for a newbie, maybe some hard work to get it stable and to keep it stable. But you will learn a lot more quicker.

    Read the beginners forum.

    And enjoy
     
  6. jaw

    jaw Thread Starter

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    Hi Crispin


    Thanks for replying, the unit is also known as a Magic Wave Marine Tank and I guess comes from China. It includes all filters, lights and protein skimmer . What do you mean does it include a sump. Sorry have not read that in the book that I have so far. Will certainly get more books soon.
     
  7. crispin

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    jaw you have the best marine book you could ever possibly want right here:)

    a sump is a very simple thing where we take the water out the tank (normallt downwards) onto a seperate chamber, filter it and then send it back up again. the advantage for that is we have a MUCH bigger chamber to filter the water and thus can get better quality water back into the DT (display tank)

    but before we worry about that have a read here Starting With Marines

    it will take you some time but cover lots of good info :)
     
  8. Tridan

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  9. Mr.Mandarin

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    hey welcome to MASA!
     
  10. martin

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    Chat with and meet reefers before you buy a tank. You'll probably find having a purpose built tank better in the long run and cheaper in the long run. Trust the regulars and sponsors on the site and be weary of non specialist shops - imo.
    Welcome to the site and the hobby.
     
  11. Singularity

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  12. Pete

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  13. Mekaeel

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    Welcome to MASA jaw :)
     
  14. Tobes

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    Welcome to MASA Jaw, hope you enjoy it here. See if you can make a plan and go visit Lanzo at Dorry Pets in Gauteng - he is one of our sponsors. There you'll get some great advice and also see what a sump looks like and how it works. Read and ask before you buy anything as our advice are free. Read up on filtration, water parameters, live rock, substrate, deep sand beds (DSB), lighting etc.
    Enjoy the learning :)
     
  15. Giepie

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    Jaw, welcome to MASA - your first and only stop... :thumbup:

    The people here are very helpful (helped me out of deep doo-doo after I took over a very small 60L tank "by force" from a person who clearly couldn't look after Marines). After 3 weeks of reading everything possible here, I'm am proud to say... I came to the right place.

    I should be the last person to tell you the amount of work with small set ups (anything smaller than 150L is asking for trouble), but believe me, once you got the nick of it, got into some sort of routine and got the water and fishies happy, you'll go for bigger.

    But in short, as Crispin said: Read, read, read and read more... If you're not sure, ask and you will get your answer.
     
  16. Jaco Schoeman

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    Hey JAW. WeLcOmE!!! I agree, bigger is better. You might now think yes bigger is also more expensive. This is true but only to a certain extent. You will find that a lot of DIY can be done in this hobby. It would be much cheaper to just buy a standar 1.2metre tank, with a standar 3 foot tank for the sump. Then, yes, you should have get a skimmer, powerheads, pumps etc.

    What I have seen though, is that these standard all inclusive systems does not have what it really takes to be effective. They have everything on the edge, meaning the moment you add more volume via a sump, all the equipment are too small, thus having you buy bigger. I know this cause I've done this!!! A 1,2m tank is about R800, a 3Foot about R300, a skimmer is about R1800, lights are R1800 (DORRY PETS HAS A GREAT SPECIAL AT THE MOMENT) return pump is about R500 and then your smaller items.

    DO NOT let yourself be sold any bio balls, and ceramics etc. Rather look into a DSB from the getgo. You will find all the advice you need on this site... I have only started out in the hobby in Dec 2008, and I promise you, that the knowledge I ahve gained in this time is absolutely amazing!! These guys really know what they are doing!!!

    Good luck and enjoy every moment!!! :thumbup:
     
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    Welcome

    Why not come around to Idol Marine's shop on Sunday and get to chat to a couple of reefers and see some stunning live stock
     
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    Nice advise Jaco. I think this should be sent to all newbies. Im sure there is a way MASA admin can do this;)
     
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    Welcome Jaw
     
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