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  1. Fishyman

    Fishyman

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    Hey guys

    280 L tank
    100L Sump

    I will be posting some pics this week of my tank
    .In the mean time, anyone know what this is?.It is taking over all my live rocks and pipes.It does not seem to affect the fish or corals
    Nitrates is in acceptable level.The tank has been going for 3 years now.I only had 1 sea hare die in that time, no other livestock lost.
    I bought liverock with this on and figured a RO Water Bath and 1x week Darkness would kill it.....boy was I wrong.I have some of the liverock with this green stuff on in the sump under complete darkness...it still grows...damn
    I hope someone knows what it is, close up it looks almost like Fern leaves...but what do I know?
     
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    Singularity Hmmm amper!

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    Welcome to MASA.

    You should have signed up much earlier.;)

    It looks to me,( the picture is not very good) like byropsis pennata.
    Terrible to have.
    If you can take each rock with your GREEN STUFF out and removed the algae by hand.
    You got to much nutrients in your system. Get your phosphate down, nitrate down, magnesium up (1350mg/l), kh up 10 or 11, waterchange and maybe upgrade your skimmer.

    You see, I give you advise for everything you need to do (maybe no need to upgrade your skimmer), but I have no clue what your system looks like. So it would make sense to upload a few decent pictures.
    Uploading, not as a word doc. In the thread reply you will find at the bottom right an option called Quick Upload. Click on there and the imageuploader opens up in a new window.

    We also need all the waterparameter. What is for you an acceptable nitrate level?
    We need to know what corals you have got, what pumps, what skimmer, etc.
    Info about lights, how old are the bulbs, photoperiod, etc.
    The better we know your system, the better we can help you.;)

    So hurry up, before you can´t see your inmates any more!
     
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    That´s the picture he attached as word.doc.

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  7. Fishyman

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    Hey Thanks Luckyfish.In the word doc - There are more pics if you scroll down.
    I will gather all the info over the coming week and post it.Thanks for the quick reply.I took the pics with my phone.I will use the wife's camera and take better ones.Take care and thanks again.
     
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  9. mnd123

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    hmmmm from the pics, particularly pic 2, this does not look like Briopsis. Briopsis has a definate feathery look to it (particularly pennata) while this looks almost like a form of caulerpa.

    Try get a better shot mate

    Oh, and welcome
     
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    A VERY WARM WELCOME to MASA, FishyMan! Great to have you on-board! I agree fully with MND123's response. Definitely looks like bryopsis.

    Bryopsis can only be removed by scrubbing the rocks, and also by increasing the alkalinity of the tank's water, as well as increasing the magnesium (all these increases should be done very slowly over a period of time).....

    Good luck mate.
     
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    ummm, I said I DON'T think it looks like briopsis Jacques
     
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    Welcome to MASA, glad you joined us. I also looks like a type of caulerpa to me. Take the rock out one by one and scrub them with a clean brush in old tank water you just took out for a water change. Use a nail brush or something simular - no brush used for chemicals ;)
    Get you water parameters in check and run phosphate remover and carbon :)
     
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    I agree, my first thought when I saw the 1st pic was possibly Bryopsis, but the other pics are definitely not the common Bryopsis, not too sure what it is.
     
  16. Fishyman

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    Thanks for the advice people.I have taken some of the rocks out and scrubbed it ...I tell you these things are hard and I had to pull some out with pliers.The steel bristle brush did not remove all .... I dont care much for it in my tank, I just want to know what it is...the green looks nice in the tank and the shrimp loves sitting on it.The sea hare did not touch it.
    Ok let me post some specs of the tank, pics to follow tonight when I get home.

    Tank = 280L
    Sump = 100L
    Return pump = 6000L/ph
    Skimmer = Aqua H20 - Cant remember the model - will check tonight
    1x 3000L/ph Jet in tank
    4x 40000L/ph jets in tank
    DSB
    BIO Balls
    +- 30Kg Kenyan Liverock
    UV Filter - not Connected

    As I said in my original Post - No deaths in 3 years except my Sea Hare.
     
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    The fact that you have bio-balls can cause higher nutrient levels. Bio-balls works fine in a fish only system as they remove and convert ammonia to nitrites and then to nitrates. But this is where their function stops. A DSB will go one step further and convert the nitrates to nitrogen - if the DSB is setup properly and deep enough with the right size sand grains to ensure an-aerobic activity.
    I would remove the bio-balls slowly, a handfull at a time once a week until out.
     
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    Oops, forgot - you return pump might be too strong as well, depending on the height and amount of bends in the line. You don't want the water to circulate too fast as the skimmer will be less effective in removing organic compounds.
    The water must also not go too fast over the DSB. 4 to 5 times system volume is fine. In you case (taking height etc into consideration) a 2500L/H should be fine.
    When you say jets, how do they look? Do they have a small opening?
     
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    Welcome...
     
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    LOL! Sorry Marc - I sped-read. Just goes to show.

    Well - that said. I still think that it might be bryopsis.

    Fishyman - can you perhaps try and get a clearer pic of this?
     
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    Hi Guys.Got the pics, but max size for upload is only 225KB how can I upload biger pics?.These need to be high detail pics.
    Thanks
     
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