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  1. Xereo

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    Ok my Tank is Ready to fill..
    Besides one small problem.
    I have no freaking idea how to do the plumbing on this thing.

    2x outlets from overflow.
    and return plumbing.

    Can someone please help me on what to buy.
    and what the taps on the sides of the pipes are for..

    Thanks So Much
     
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    leslie hempel Moderator MASA Contributor

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    are you wanting too fit durso standpipe systems to the overflow?

    or just valve it?
     
  4. Xereo

    Xereo Thread Starter

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    I Actually know 0% about plumbing lol.
    There is no piping from the main tank to sump yet.
    or for the return.

    want to know what i must buy
    and how must i run the piping.

    and how do i attach pipes to the holes in the main tank overflow.

    Do i run the pip straight from the overflow to the sum or do i elbow it?
     
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    The piping will be determined by the type of overflow the tank has. Post a pic of the tank so we can see the location/type of overflow and the configuration and placement of the sump.
     
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    As requested

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    there ye go as requested
     
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    here is just a Design before i started building
    Refugium, changed to a DSB

    as you can see i have very basic understanding of the plumbing.

    when i look at orther peoples tanks, i see lots of different tubing / Taps / conenctions / Wires all over.
    Dont even know what they are for
     
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    Your sketch is perfect there. No need to over complicate things. You would need to get a tank adapter (PVC fitting that screws together on either side of the overflow holes). Then you add a pipe to the top. Research a Durso standpipe. It is what you will be doing. The tap on the overflow is to backup the water into the pipe so that it does not make a noise when the water falls down the overflow. Leave the emergency overflow unrestricted as you have it in the pic. The emergency overflow can jsut be a plain pipe with the open hole at the top. Your main overflow needs to have a 90 degree elbow on it at the top facing down. This will stop gurgling sounds.

    So in short you will need tank adapters, a ball valve to restrict the main overflow and then just the piping.
     
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    Xereo Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the info.

    and the Return pump?
    how to i make sure its not going to pump to much or to little to keep up the the overflow?

    and what sort of piping should i use for the return?
    and should i split it in 2 return pipes or just leave it as 1
     
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    Well all I did was leave the return pump, to pump what ever it can, the more water it pumps back the more water will go through the over flow you can then manage the flow with the ball valve as it flows back in to the sump

    You Pro's agree?
     
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    The return pump can easily overpower the overflow but this will depend on the flow into the actual pipe in the overflow, so if u use too thin a pipe and too strong a pump it wont work and it will flood over the tank walls. So i nice thick-ish pipe with a valve which u can adjust (if needed).

    How many liters is the tank and sump?
     
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    From the size of the holes it looks like the overflows are 50mm. You need a massive return pump to overpower that.

    The overflow will handle all the water your pump can through at it so dont worry about that.

    If you return pump is say more than 4000LPH I would say split it in 2. Remember to work the LPH out taking head loss into account.
     
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    my tank and sump together are about 200L

    i was thinking of using a 2500lph return pump.

    and yes the overflow hole is 50mm
     
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    That will work 100% Even a 2000 is fine
     
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    For 2500LPH return I would leave it with one outlet. Done worry about return pump vs overflow size. You have nothing to worry about here.
     
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    Great thanks so much.

    Just say i want to use the return to move the water in the main tank.
    Would this be good enough for my size tank?

    or should i just put a Sun Sun on
     
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    Youll need more than just your return pump to create flow. You dont want the flow through your sump to be too high either.
    A circulation pump (or two) will allow you to play around with the flow in the tank so that you get good circulation and no dead spots.
     
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    ok so what should i get.. a 2000LPH return pump for 2500LPH on a 200L in total ( Including Sump )
     
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