Mysterious clear slime

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  1. VicZA

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    Hey all,

    This morning while changing my filter socks, I noticed that they were covered and heavy with a clear slime. This stuff was quite dense and did not just rinse off, you had to scrub it off.

    The livestock seems fine and water parameters also seem fine.

    Anyone know what this is and how to go about treating it.

    One of the things that I have changed recently is that I started to dose Red Sea's NO3:pO4-x in an attempt to get rid of my nuisance algae.

    Is this temporary ? I am worried that the situation gets worse and starts affecting corals and livestock.

    Any help would be appreciated.
     
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    Might be bacterial
    Pics would help
     
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    will try get some pics later today, but it's clear so not sure you will see too much from the pics
     
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    How long after adding the Red Sea did it occur?
     
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    seems to have happened pretty much straight away ... been dosing that stuff for 5 days now. Small amount though ... 5ml per day in my 300l tank
     
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    here are some pictures: 1 st two show the slimy stuff sticking to some algae and also "blowing around" the tank, while the third shows a very poor looking anemone (not sure if related or not). Water quite murky now and slime coating starting to build up on socks again. These were changed this morning around 8 ....

    Like I said things that have changes :

    1 - Started dosing Red Sea NO3:pO4-x about 5-6 days ago (5ml per day, 300 ltr system water volume)
    2 - Suspect a clown may have died in the overflow (missing for 4-5 days)
    3 - Stopped dosing vinegar daily and changed to above product

    Parameters are fine, corals look fine, livestock seem fine ....

    Any help would be VERY appreciated

    Slime 01.jpg

    Slime 02.jpg

    Slime 03.jpg
     
  8. VicZA

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    oh, one other change is the addition of a sand sifting goby and me stirring the substrate quite alot since this goby tries to cover my zoas by making massive sand mounds on them
     
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    I have also just noticed that some of my bio cubes have turned black and are also covered with this slime - wonder if that is causing it ??
     
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    No- just interested to hear what its about
     
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    @VicZA you are using cubes, nopox and vinigar, all three are forms of carbon dosing, and are competing against each other. Pick one method of nitrate reduction and stick to it.

    The black cubes indicate that you have not got enough flow through them, i would shake them off well every few days to help the situation, also look to see if your airpump is operating optimally.

    I would wager if the slim is bacteria is due to all three methods causing havoc in your system.

    If your parameters are fine why the excess of nutrient removal?
     
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    I was using the Titanium Bio-Cubes (as I could not get hold of the normal ones) and felt that this was not getting rid of phosphates, even though with the test kits the phosphate reading were untraceable. I have huge amounts of algae (looks like a combination of GHA and Bryopsis) that will just not disappear so I have to assume that they are still using all available nutrients from rocks, etc ... hence the use of the NOPOX. The vinegar I started using because there was also a huge outbreak of Red Cyano in my tank and it was recommended to me.

    I am now getting rid of all except NOPOX and see how I go.

    Also going to do a 20% water chance, which is long overdue.
     
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    Personally i stop the nopox and jus run the cubes it should take effect in a few weeks ps make sure u got a air stone in the cubes or place them after skimmer so they get airrated from skimmer ...
     
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    My issue with the bio cubes is that the titanium ones say they remove nitrates without phosphates so I don't think these are working for me. I have had the algae and cyno problems while running the cubes - and yes I have a large air stone in the bag with the cubes
     
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    Your issue is that your nutrients are probably stuck in your live rock remember algae can thrive in any environment and it is a specialist at extracting nutrients from rock and even the water column before it has a chance to even enter your filtration system.

    it wont matter if you are using vinegar, cubes, or nopox, there is no quick fix for it.

    you will need to weather the storm, pick one method and stick with it for 3 months, be diligent with your husbandry, and attentative to your details. do not over feed, make sure to carry out scheduled maintenance. this can include manual removal of the algae, and the addition of herbivores to stem the tide. once your nutrient imports are less than your exports, you will win the battle.
     
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    your slim is more than likely a nuisance algae


    Reef Cleaners

    perhaps you might also require more flow in your DT to facilitate moving detritus to your sump where is can be skimmed out, or caught in a filter sock.
     
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    @butcherman ... thanks for the help ! I cannot take out my rock and scrub it as suggested by many. My rock is basically all cemented into one large rock and many of it is covered with zoas and polyps which I do not want to destroy. I will stick with NOPOX for the next six months or so and see how I go. I will also up my flow as suggested.

    What about water changes ? Should I do them ? I don't at the moment.

    As for the longer stuff (GHA or Bryopsis) I will also try pulling out the stuff on a regular basis and see if my yellow tang, rock blenny and tail-spot blenny can keep the short stuff at bay (they do seem to nip at it when it is short)
     
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    Unfortunately your gonna have to get your hands wet on this one. Get a tooth brush, a turkey baster a syphon tube and a 50 micron filter sock.
    Use the toothbrush and scrub the rock in tank. Use the turkey baster to blast the rock especially the pores in the rock. Use the syphon tube to catch any algea floating around.

    Filter the water through the filter sock so you can add it beack to the tank and repeat the process. Unless you have sone new salt water for a water change.

    Basically wash rinse repeat.
     
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