My Latest Sump

Discussion in 'Biological/Natural Filtration and Deep Sand Beds' started by Creep, 13 Apr 2010.

  1. Creep

    Creep Ernst

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    Hi guys.

    Attached is a pdf file of my sump I had made and it was suggested I rater go with this sump as with the one I desighned. Ok this is officaly my third sump.

    It's got 5 chambers First is the inlet, second is for the heater third is for the skimmer and return pump, fourth is for DSB and the fifth is the refugium. Afer I got the sump i saw a problem the flow ower my DSB as my return pump is in the third chamber i would not get any flow ofer the DSB in the fourth chamber. Now i would like to know would it work if i pump water to my DT from my DSB from my third chmber with a piece of pipe.

    OR any suggetions?
     

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    Not going to work, your baffle/buffer at your dsb side is wrong. The sand is gonna go underneith and "block" waterflow
     
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    Hi Creep - no mate. I personally think that you have "over-designed" this sump. We all try and subscribe to "K.I.S.S".....

    The best and most basic design (which experience has taught us), is a 3 compartment sump, where the center compartment, the DSB compartment, is the biggest....

    How big is your skimmer? And why would you want to have a completely seperate compartment for the water inlet? You can have your water inlet in the same compartment as your skimmer......

    I would do this rather:
    Compartment 1) Water inlet, and in-sump skimmer
    Compartment 2) DSB (biggest compartment)
    Compartment 3) Return pump, and all/any pumps for other "reactors".....

    Hope you understand?
     
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    i agree with jacquesb
     
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    this is what i have done with my sump

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    have fun
     
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    Creep Thread Starter Ernst

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    Ok hope i can remove and move the compartments without breaking something.
    So i will remove the first piece of glass and put my skimmer inside there and move the short piece of glass in the middle on to the end near the refugium for my return pump an have a moerse DSB!

    Cool thanx buds.
    Will do that!
     
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    i would sugest you put a ats on it above the dsb like i did it helps with stopping the algae growing in your dt
     
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    Great decision, Creep! Good luck with that. Try and use "fishline" and a carpet knife to cut loose the silicone.....
     
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    Creep Thread Starter Ernst

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    Ok im nor really sure what a ats is do i buy it from a LFS?
     
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    Creep - an ATS, is an "ALGAE TURF SCRUBBER".... This is something you can very easily "build"....

    Just use the "Google Search" on MASA's home-page, and type in ATS and click on "search".... You should see what it looks like, and how to build one....
     
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    Creep Thread Starter Ernst

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    Ok will do.
    Thanks.
     
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    Creep Thread Starter Ernst

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    Dont think ive got enough space for a ATS
    Do I need to start up with a ats?
     
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    No Creep. You don't "NEED TO"..... And ATS is an optional extra filtration method.

    I would definitely rather say that a skimmer is FAR MORE important to "Start off with"....
     
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    no you can add one later what size is your dsb and how much space do you have above the dsb
     
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    Creep Thread Starter Ernst

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    +- a 1000mm by 500mm sand bed will be 15mm high. Not sure about the water level thats why I think I should do it later when i added all my water.

    Can someone post a link to build a ATS Please!
     
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    http://www.marineaquariumsa.com/showpost.php?p=300272&postcount=273

    I agree with what the others say, I only added mine a few months after startup. However, if and when you do decide to include one, it's very easy to build, took maybe an hour. You can custom make it however you like to fit into the space you have available.

    Also have a look at RiaanP's build, he did a very cool one that uses gravity to feed it. I can't remember where his thread is right now, do a search ;)
     
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    Creep Thread Starter Ernst

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    1000mm x 500 with the sand bed 15mm high not sure about the water level think I need to top up everyting first.

    Can someone please find me a link to building a scrubber looks easy to build from the picks I see but need more info on what is needed etc.
     
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    sorry jacques, posted same time as you :)
     
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