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  1. Esmond

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    Hi Everyone

    I am totally new at this(marine tank) so please forgive me if i sound a bit stupid.

    I have a 500li tank which i filled with coral water & live sand about a week a ago, about 4 days ago i added 60kg of live rock(cured , from my local fish store).My water is clear & my parameters normal(i have saw a couple of crabs & some new flora starting to grow).When will i start smelling the foul smell everybody is talking about & how much flora & fauna should i add when my tank is fully cycled.

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    Hey and WELCOME to MASA looks like u got a good start some pics will help us alot so post away!!!
     
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  5. Tony

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    If your live rock has been cured as you say then you won't have die off and the bad smell
     
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    Hi Esmond welcome to MASA, great to have you on board.
     
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    A VERY WARM WELCOME to MASA, Esmond! Great to have you on-board!

    Everything w.r.t marines, is about PATIENCE. And READING, READING, READING (as much as you can) - and also about ASKING AS MANY QUESTIONS as possible!

    The FIRST thing I want to suggest, is that you acquire some decent testing kits. This is what you would require at this stage:
    1) either a hydrometer, or refractometer (to test the salinity/SG/salt density of your tank's water)
    2) ammonia test kit
    3) nitrite test kit
    4) nitrate test kit
    5) pH test kit
    6) thermometer

    These test kits are vital, in determining whether your tank is cycled, or not.
    You cannot only determine alone, by "smelling the water" whether the tank has completely cycled, or not.

    Only when your ammonia/nitrite levels have become 0, and stayed at 0 for at least a month, and your nitrate levels have become as low as possible, ONLY THEN will you know that your tank has completely cycled.

    And it is really suggested, that you also only add life-stock - only then!

    Please let us know what all you have, and what type of tank your system consists of? Do you have a sump? Do you have a skimmer? If so - what brand/model/etc?
    What lighting do you have?
    Do you have a DSB? (Deep sand bed)?
    Do you have macro algae in your tank's sump?
    What in-tank water pumps do you have?

    Enjoy your addictive journey into the marine keeping hobby! Keeping marines becomes a lifestyle! Enjoy! And good luck!

    Please read through the URL at the bottom of my post (starting with marines).
     
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    Esmond welcome to Masa
     
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  11. Esmond

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    I do have a test kit & all the readings are zero(ammonia.nitrite & nitrate) temterature & salinity is normal as well.I do have s skimmer(dunno what make & model) & sump,lightning 10000k(if that make sense) my sand bed is about 5cm deep.Some of my live rock is laying flat on the live sand will that be a problem,will post pictures as soon as i have sorted out my p.c security(vista).

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    Hi Here is pictures of my new tank(2 weeks)

    Regards
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    Welcome to MASA Esmond, hope you enjoy it here with us.

    As Jacques mentioned, a tank takes a while to cycle and only after all the parameters test zero can you add livestock. They will test zero in the beginning, so you cannot go on the results as yet. It takes 4 - 6 weeks for a tank to cycle - and if you should add livestock before the water test fine, and stays stable for a week after the initial cycle - the chances are good that they might die :(
    You cannot go on what the LFS said, I mean where is the guarantee that the rock is cured?
    Please be patient.
    What test kits do you have? The make?
    Also, a deep sand bed is usually in the sump, but some guys have it in their main display if they don't have a sump. The one you're refering to, is it in the sump or the main tank?
    If you're talking about the substrate in the main tank, it only needs to be 1 - 2 inches (25 - 50mm) - if you have a sump with a DSB.
    The DSB in a sump needs to be of very fine sand 12 - 15cm deep to ensure oxygen poor areas for bacteria to consume nitrates and convert it to nitrogen. This is what a DSB's function is and it can take 6 months or longer to mature properly.

    Ask away if you need help :wave2:
     
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    No pictures showing :(
     
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    I agree no pics showing
     
  17. Esmond

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    Sorry here is the pics

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    Do you have pictures of the sump?
    What flow pumps are you using inside the tank?

    Some of those pieces looks like sandstone. Doesn't look like good quality live rock to me as there are not lots of life on it, except algae :p - but on the other hand I can't see clearly in the small pictures. Where did you buy it from and how much did you pay per kg?
     
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    Hi Tobes

    Bought it @ Animal Kingdom in Roodepoort 4 R190-00 a kilo.Was i ripped off!!!!!!

    I"ll send pics of my sump later,overall does my tank look ok.

    thanx for the advice

    Esmond
     
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