Most energy efficient pumps?

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  1. ATV

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    Hello MASA

    I have decided to take the plunge and go marine. I don't know much about the different wavemaker brands etc. so was hoping to get some help from the more experienced forum members.

    What are the most energy efficient and quiet pumps available on the market today? My display tank will be 500lt.

    Thanks
     
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  3. RiaanP

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    I take you are asking about powerheads. Or in display pumps.

    Well, there are many pumps out there. And each got their own group of believers. But it all depends on what type of flow you want, money you are willing to spend on it, do you like fancy controllers. Magnets or suction cup mounts.

    And all these pumps have their place in the market.

    Starting real cheap, Looking at Sun Sun 3000L/h. about R200 last time I checked. Use 4 and you are well away. will give you 24 times turnover in that 500L tank. More than enough for softies. But 4 magnet mounts for them will cost you almost the same as the pumps. The supplied suction cups works great for a year and a half, then they harden and starts to fall off.

    At the top of the scale will be a Vortech MP40, but at about R6000 for one pump, OK it is controllable, loads of features, heat outside the tank. On short pulse you can get a serious wave out of it. But realistically, you might need 2. It is a much bigger investment.

    then there are the Tunze, Seio, Voyager, Sicce, WP40, Aquamedic, and a lot of others. All at different prices. Some with controllers. Others without.

    If you are a newbie, and this is your first setup. Go for the cheaper options. Rather spend more money on a descend skimmer.
     
  4. irie ivan

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    I think thats what he means.. Wattage vs flow rate.. Actually a really good question.

    For flow pumps wavemakers and for return pumps (head factored in perhaps) ..- a good comparison should be made a sticky...
     
  5. ATV

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    Thanks Riaan. I am a newb but I prefer to get a decent powerhead upfront that will last me a decent amount of time.
    I know I want the following traits:
    -Low power consumption
    -Ability to be controlled
    -Dead quiet
    -Non-reversing

    I was looking at Tunze powerheads. Any thoughts?
     
  6. ATV

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    Spot on
     
  7. RiaanP

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    Tunze do have a few nice pumps. But one thing I personally do not like about the Tunze pumps are all those codewords. 9750 pump and a 9725 controller. Whatever. Just me, having a problem with numbers. Nothing wrong with the pumps itself.

    Some of their pumps do have a very wide flow. 50cm in front of the pump and you will hardly feel anything. But the flow is so wide, that you will have surface agitation even with the pump mounted low. It is not a bad thing either. You do not want to blast your anemones and mushrooms off the rock. Plus being controllable from 2000 to about 9500L/h is just as nice. Others Tunze pumps are more a stream pump, delivering a narrow stream that can easily reach the other side of a 500L tank. they have a lot of different pumps for different setups

    In the price range, Tunze is cheaper than Vortech, but still rather expensive. But you pay for what you get. Great pumps.

    What type of corals do you want. SPS systems prefer a lot more water movement than softies. 60 to 80 times turnover compared to minimum 20 times for softies.

    How do you want your rock stack? Is it rather flat, or very high standing in front of the pumps.
     
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    Nothing against tunze but i just got a jeboa wp25 and wow that little pump moves water so thats also an option to look at
     
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    yes, strong flow, more a stream pump than a wide flow pump. Each got his place in a tank.
     
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    Very true yes but with that wave making function it really does a nice job around the whole tank
     
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    Id say get a single vortech one shot. And some other pumps as supplementary
     
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    What code words are they Riaan, 9750 and 9725? Maybe I can help, cheers Anita
     
  13. RiaanP

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    Just me and the codes used for Tunze. They have a great product range, from small to big pumps. But I never could understand the codes used to name the pumps. Plus then some are controllable and others are not.

    Like the Tunze Turbella Nano Stream 6065.
    For aquariums from 40 to 200 litres (10 to 55 USgal.)
    Flow rate: about 1,800l/h (475 USgal./h)

    Next up is the 6085
    For aquariums from 40 to 200 litres (10 to 55 USgal.)
    Flow rate: about 2,800l/h (740 USgal./h)

    Then the 6125
    For aquariums from 40 to 500 litres (10 to 135 USgal.)
    Flow rate: 1,500 to about 4,500l/h (400 to 1,175 USgal./h)

    Unless you got a product sheet with you, how do you know the different pump sized from the names given?
     
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    Hi Riaan,

    To stop confusion there are controllable TUNZE pumps and non-controllable TUNZE pumps. The major difference is that controllable pumps are more energy efficient, but more expensive, non-controllable are much less expensive. The numbers normally tell you the flow rate, 6095 (9500 l/hr) 6065 (6500 l/h) 6015 (1500 l/hr) 6045 (4500 l/hr).

    Your literage/flow rates are incorrect :-
    These are non-controllable pumps.
    6125 flow rate up to 12 000 l/hr (aquariums 400- 2000 litres)
    6085 flow rate up to 8 000 l/hr (aquariums 400- 1000 litres)
    6065 flow rate up to 6 500 l/hr (aquariums 250- 800 litres)

    No wonder you think they are expensive, you are mixing the Nano stream 6015/6025/6045 etc with the Turbelle Stream pumps, which are much more powerful.

    Cheers Anita
     
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    Anita with all those numbers I think reefers are thinking what the hell?? Im now also a bit confused :-(
    Suggestion, make a 2d sheet showing tank liters ver recommeded pump.
     
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    for @Anita

    Turbelle® nanostream®|Non-controllable synchronous motor pumps
    Turbelle® nanostream® 6015|For aquariums from 40 to 200 litres (10 to 55 USgal.) Flow rate: about 1,800l/h (475 USgal./h)
    Turbelle® nanostream® 6025|For aquariums from 40 to 200 litres (10 to 55 USgal.) Flow rate: about 2,800l/h (740 USgal./h)
    Turbelle® nanostream® 6045|For aquariums from 40 to 500 litres (10 to 135 USgal.) Flow rate: 1,500 to about 4,500l/h (400 to 1,175 USgal./h)
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    Turbelle® nanostream® electronic|Controllable pumps
    Turbelle® nanostream® 6055|for aquariums from 40 to 500 litres (10 to 135 USgal.) Flow rate: 1,000 to about 5,500l/h (250 to 1,450 USgal./h)
    Turbelle® nanostream® 6095|WIDE FLOW for aquariums from 100 to 1000 litres (25 to 265 USgal.) Flow rate: 2,000 to about 9,500l/h (550 to 2,500 USgal./h)
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    Turbelle® stream|Non-controllable synchronous motor pumps
    Turbelle® stream 6065|For aquariums from 250 to 800 litres (65 to 210 USgal.) Flow rate: abt. 6.500l/h (1,700 USgal./h)
    Turbelle® stream 6085|For aquariums from 400 to 1,000 litres (105 to 265 USgal.) Flow rate: abt. 8.000l/h (2,100 USgal./h)
    Turbelle® stream 6125|For aquariums from 400 to 2,000 litres (105 to 525 USgal.) Flow rate: abt. 12.000l/h (3,150 USgal./h)
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    Turbelle® stream electronic|Controllable pumps
    Turbelle® stream 6105|For aquariums from 200 to 2,000 litres (50 to 525 USgal.) Flow rate: 3,000 up to abt. 13,000l/h (700 to abt. 3,400 USgal./h)
    Turbelle® stream 6155|For aquariums > 3,000 litres (800 USgal.) Flow rate: 4,000 up to abt. 15,000l/h (1,050 to 3,950 USgal./h)
    Turbelle® stream 6255|WIDE FLOW for tanks > 4.000L (1,050 USgal.) Flow performance: 5,000 to approx. 18,000l/h (1,300 to 4,800 USgal./h)
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    Turbelle® masterstream|Controllable pumps
    Turbelle® masterstream 6550|for aquariums of over 5,000L (1,320 USgal.) Flow rate: 30,000 to about 50,000l/h (7,900 to 13,000 USgal./h)
    Turbelle® masterstream 6560|for aquariums of over 10,000L (2,650 USgal.) Flow rate: 30,000 to about 60,000l/h (7,900 to 15,850 USgal./h)
    Turbelle® masterstream 6560 DC|for aquariums of over 10,000L (2,650 USgal.) Flow rate: 30,000 to about 60,000l/h (7,900 to 15,850 USgal./h)
    Turbelle® masterstream 6580|for aquariums over 20,000L (5,250 USgal.) Flow rate: 45,000 to about 80,000l/h (11,900 to 21,000 USgal./h)
    Turbelle® masterstream 6580 DC|for aquariums over 20,000L (5,250 USgal.) Flow rate: 45,000 to about 80,000l/h (11,900 to 21,000 USgal./h)
     
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  17. RiaanP

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    I got the information from
    TUNZE GmbH High-Tech Aquarium Technology: Catalog[predid]=-infoxunter052

    I think the info on there for the 6045 is wrong. It list it with flow rate from 1500 to 4500 but it is listed as a non-controllable pump.

    One day, I want to see a 6580 in action. At full blast. Oh my... 80 000!!!
     
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    Hi Riaan, simple really, any reefer can contact me or George with his tank dimensions and bio load expectations, because every tank is different and needs different flow. For example a 6095 which is 4 500 to 9 500 l/hr flow rate, which could be suitable for a tank of 500 x 500 x 450 (112 litres Nano) just like the one in the photo or for a tank of 1000 litres, depending on bio load and species.

    [​IMG]

    It is great that TUNZE make so many varied pumps to suit each tank and all pockets!! :thumbup:
     
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    The 6045 Nano Pump is a non-controllable pump, you cannot put this pump on an electronic controller but it does have a button on the side for variable flow rate, which you can manually control. The next size up, the 6055, is the controllable pump.

    The 6580 is a monster, if we ever set one up here, we shall send photos of it in action......cheers Anita
     
  20. RiaanP

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    OK, I see now
    6045 got like a throttle

    [​IMG]
    And you can adjust it to the flow what you want in your tank.
    I just looked at the specs and not the picture.
     
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    Im all for Tunze, have 4 Tunze flow pumps in my tank and my return pump is Tunze. Been running my tunzes for 4 years now, non stop and they still as good as new. They are higher priced than a lot of the pumps out there, but quality costs money and Tunze is quality. You almost never see them on the for sale forum.
     
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