MODS vs Advisors

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  1. dallasg

    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    maybe i am stirriing a hornets nest, but are we mixing up the meaning of mods vs advisors...
    mods = police of the forums and subsections
    advisors - guys with the knowledge in certain areas

    now we have mods, most of which i see never post which is ok if they policing, but what about the guys giving advice where are they?

    sorry but i dont see them being one and the same at all
     
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  4. dallasg

    dallasg Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    to elaborate, most of the sticky threads in say the breeding should be by LuckyFish
     
  5. KeeganP

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    But 459b for example was an advisor, now he is a mod, doesnt make him less capable to advisor on the forum?

    or am I getting your point wrong..
     
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    dallasg Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    no it doesnt, but make him both as both roles will take up time and require one to wear different hats
     
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    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    i think Riaanp is also advisor/mod
     
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    Moderators in general have the knowledge and will be able to advise. Advisors on the other hand know stuff but arent willing to or capable of being policemen

    Ok i dont know where im going with that :p
     
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    I agree with Dallas...but I also feel some of the mods are not qualified to give advice on certain areas, and I have seen it in some threads where mods have tried to give advice on a topic or fish/coral that they seem to know very little about... so in short there should be advisers in these areas to help guys out as well as having mods to police the forum. :)
     
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    lol...fool! :tt2:
     
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    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    neither do we :p
     
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    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    we only have B.E.E.'s here :whistling:
     
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    dallasg Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Amen!
     
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    dallasg Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    but it makes sense
     
  15. KeeganP

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    Nobody is obligated to use/take advice from anybody, If you feel that somebody has advised incorrectly/not up to scratch then ignore it, if newbie's are asking for advise then there will be a number of replies and the newbie can research future on that advice given, after all we are all human and none of us know it alll... :)
     
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    dallasg Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    true, but its like going to a GP or specialist physcian
     
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    Luckyfish joined 23-11-2009
    There are no sticky threads under Breeding.
    Luckyfish did start 14 threads under breeding on various topics. surely not all 14 can be made a sticky?

    Anyway, I do not see my upgrade to Mod as changing what I used to do. Giving comments, advice and my conclusions and experiences on various areas I personally had to deal with on my own setup experiments. Yes, I'm still learning, and are busy with one BIG conclusion where I have to rethink something I used to advised. Still need the last couple of tweaks to confirm the results. So next week, I will give it.

    As moderator, I just got the extra policing job to do. and fixing up things, closing for sale threads - if you guys remember to reply to the mods that the goods are sold and the thread can be closed.

    Same as what is the difference to being a prefect at school and a "normal" scholar. Still the same exams and homework. With extra of watching who cause the fights on the playground.

    Advisor, as in a topic specific advisor or guru. Like Sihaya (Sara) or Anemone (Brenda), its something else. People specializing in a specific field. Master of that. Yes, I do see Luckyfish as such a person.
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean about them being one and the same? We have mods and then we have advisors. A few of our previous advisors have now been made mods as you have noticed, therefore they no longer fall under the 'advisors' hat, however that doesn't mean they suddenly forgot how to reef. :p We were discussing a few new names which we would like to give recognition to in appreciation for their continuous and knowledgeable support and advice given to the members, however life does get in the way occasionally but we are discussing it, patience young Jedi, we shall get there eventually, also trying to organise a TOTM and another 4 or 5 competitions, we have all these prizes to give away but as I'm sure you're aware, life and work annoyingly gets in the way sometimes and slows everything down. We'll get there eventually, I promise.:)
    I have no idea what you mean here, there are no sticky threads in the breeding forum. Luckyfish was on our list of advisors, however due to his recent legal circumstances he has become very quiet and doesn't come online anymore.
    We do not NEED advisors, we have thousands of members that come online everyday and offer advice, such as yourself. Our idea behind advisors was to have a few people that are highly knowledgeable in certain fields or aspects of reefkeeping, such as luckyfish for breeding, Jaco Schoeman for NPS, Dallas and Tony for bacterial advice and so on.
    Dead right, myself included, and I do that on purpose, especially when I come across a question that has been asked and there has been no response for 12 hours or 2 or 3 days, I will then purposely make a comment or offer very basic advice in the hope that it will bump the thread and get more comments, which it inevitably does, because then everybody jumps on the thread and offers the correct advice, which is what we want. DO NOT see a mod or an admin as a person that knows everything, not everybody can know everything, me especially, there is loads that I have no clue about, but I try help where I can, if I make mistakes then other members soon come along and correct those errors, which is what forums are all about. :)

    Dallas, I feel I haven't answered your questions, I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. Maybe you can explain in laymans terms for me.
     
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    dallasg Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    thanks Viper, you have answered it, and yes life does runaway with things, i know that :) i just feel the old way with advisors and mods was better and i would take an advisors comment over a mods any day, just because they are percieved as a specialist in that field, yes one could be both but i would prefer them to wear the "advisor" hat in public and whether they can do admin is not relevant to reefing per say, or an i wring? There might be loads of advisors and few mods in the end but its my R1.50c chirp :thumbup:


    on another note, and maybe need to start another thread

    i just felt the need to get people thinking again and a break from the all the usual threads, i like being controversal, it makes people think and justify their responses.

    its time to start making the move towards the new century in terms of thinking, reefing and new technology, hence my new topics and replies of late. After being in USA and the east at trade shows "we" need to bridge the technology gap in this field, i mean there are atleast 5 diff NP pellet makers that run out of their garages in the USA, and all products were great, and i hope to see more at MACNA 2012 in Texas.

    i saw so much there and meeting people here on MASA i see so much potential and as a public forum we need to change the paradigm, not sure yet how but pressing the right buttons will help... we are so closed minded here in SA in general...
     
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    yip, I still like my DSB :)

    Dallasg, very important part of your signature.
    And - remeber - fix the spelling mistake in your signature.;)
     
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    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Closed minded in what way? if anything i percive MASA and a open forum, that trys to embrace technology.
    for example - have you seen the interest in submariners led fittings, and if these products didnt cost half a wedding, im sure more people would be embracing them.
     
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