Mixed Livestock in our tanks

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  1. dallasg

    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    just a quick one, do you think that the mixing of fish and corals from around the world have any impact on our livestock?

    eg yellow tangs from hawaii mixed with fish from indo? the different SG levels, temp and Geo-location make any difference?

    or are they happy to live anywhere like gold fish :)
     
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    Never compare our LS to goldfish... :eek: but yes... :) they're like goldfish... :)
     
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    I've also been wondering about this, I would think temperature would be the biggest difference.
     
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    dallasg Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    salinity, temp and dependant species etc
     
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    I never knew there was a difference in salinity.
     
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    dallasg Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    It was mentioned delbeek and sprungs book,
    Will look for it
     
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    Thats very interesting.
     
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    I know that the zoothanthellae algae that lives inside the corals are different from each ocean body. So yes, corals must be related if you want the algae to be able to spread from one coral to another. anemones can take up free zoothanthellae that was release by mushrooms for example. If they are from the same seas.

    There are currently 85 different types of zoothanthellae identified. Across different areas, like vents, reefs, cold etc...
     
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    But that is what we are all doing. Who is running a system with livestock just from indonesia or just from Hawaii? Who asks the LFS where is this coral coming from?

    If you like the coral, you buy it. Or do you really say, wow beautiful, but I can not take it because it's from the wrong part of the world.
     
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    on Corals, some are born with the symbiotic algae in them. Others get them by consuming the Zooxanthellae when they start growing.

    I looked around for the other link, but cannot find it now. But corals that can uptake Zooxanthellae by consuming them, can after a bleaching event be able to take up a new colony of Zooxanthellae. Some of them might even find a new type it likes more and expel the previous type they had in them. Excess Zooxanthellae are always expelled anyway, it is their form of propagation anyway. So yes, anemones can recover quicker if they are in a matured tank, with loads of other corals from same region they came from. And those corals are in a state where they are releasing Zooxanthellae. Especially mushrooms and Ricordia. Being somewhat related to anemones.

    And that is another reason why anemones should only be put into matured systems.

    wish I can find that link.
     
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    This is very interesting info I had no idea the region they came from made so much difference, thats why I love masa learn something new every day.:)
     
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    i was asking if it makes a difference ;)
     
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    i think in the short term if the fish was acclimatised properly there shouldnt be a problem, ive seen tangs that have been in a tank for up to 10 years and still growing. i cannot comment on coral although how i understand it is that in order for it to grow something has to be discarded.

    when you look at lps or even clams you can see the growth points, where softies are concerned they shed layers making room for growth of new layers that mae them both increase in size.

    what i'm trying to say is that even though they come from different parts of the ocean, if after a period of time there is growth then the coral or fish has adapted to its new environment.

    just my 2c..
     
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    i like this answer
     
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    You are right Dallas, it was late already. Simple answer? I agree with Starz;)
     
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    :) thanks.. see as i said in another post.. us newbies can teach the masters a thing or two..
    we all learn as we go along, but that doesnt meen we have to make the same "mistakes" as others or get to a certain point the long way around. we can learn from others experience and save ourselves time and money doing so.
     
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