Urgent help needed Milky Water

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  1. Skumbuza

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    Hey there guys...
    I seem to have an issue on my hands...
    I've been struggling to get my phosphates down to 0 so i made the mistake of dosing NO3PO4-X and running my phosphate reactor at the same time.
    My phosphates started to increase so I turned off the doser and continued to run the phosphate reactor alone.
    I have a 500-600L sytem and the nopox says 2ml/100L/day so that would calculate a max of 10ml a day for my system.
    I was dosing just that (1ml ever 2 hours with a 4 hr break).
    Since then the water has been a little mirky so I decided to run some carbon along with the antiphos (phosguard).
    Well i've woken up today to a MILKY MILKY tank ! I can't see anything through the glass.
    The skimmer has been taking out a very milky waste apposed to the normal brown waste. Even my live rock in the sump is full of like a white "powder" substance.
    I just don't understand how if this is a BACTERIA BLOOM, how would it only happen like a week after I've stopped dosing and the very next day after I've added activated carbon to the system.

    Please could somebody enlighten me on what they think the problem could be.

    Thanks so much...
     
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  3. Fred d

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    You have caulerpa in the system bud , what are your perametrrs
     
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    Caulerpa... what is that ? All my test kits are at a mates place..Will only be able to get them later this afternoon. I could only test PO4 at the moment that is sitting on 0.17ppm. I guess my best bet would be to test for ammonia and nitrates ?
     
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    "Caulerpa is common in the aquarium hobby as a nitrate absorber because of its rapid growth under relatively adverse conditions. It may also be used in refugiums for a long term nitrite absorber. Many introductions of invasive Caulerpa to the wild are thought to have occurred via aquarium dumping although there is no proof that this is so. For this reason, some aquarium hobbyists have begun using Chaetomorpha or an algae scrubber instead." - Now im really confused.. lol
     
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    Sounds more like a snowstorm, common with your calcium levels being too high which then causes the calcium to precipitate out of the water column and make the water milky and the white stuff on your rocks (thus the term 'snow' storm). Not sure if a bacteria bloom would cause this, although stopping the nopox may be an issue, I believe you should slowly wean your tank off of nopox instead of suddenly stopping it as this can cause problems as well.

    Could be a combination of things that has caused this.
     
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    All the media etc is floculating, post a pic
     
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    I havent been adding calcium just yet so dont see how this could be..
    Should i just check magnesium levels anyhow just to make sure ? And i thought calcium precipitation comes out as solid white spots on the glass.... not milky like this.
     
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    pics aren't very clear but hope it helps.. all u can see is milkiness... the rocks are what are in my sump and used to have colour.. now just grey and white...

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    there are white things (almost like strands of kak)) floating around too......
     
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    Dallasg.. makes sense.. how would this be caused and how do i rectify it ?
     
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    any chance of running water through phosguard too fast and as a result, the particles have grinded together, causing them to give off a white dust ?
     
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    do you have an anemone perhaps?
    What livestock do you have?
     
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    hey zandy,
    no i dont have any anenomes... wanted to get my tank running before i introduce too much into the tank.
    i do have a lettuce at the moment tho. hes about the only thing that i can see and he seems to be fine.
    im really starting to think that I was tumbling the phosguard (small white balls) too fast and they have rubbed on each other, releasing dust into the water... I've taken the phosguard out and put filter cloth in the canister. If there is anybody that has had this problem before, please share your experiences.....
    Im not sure if this is the problem... Im hoping that it is....
     
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    I've also turned my skimmer to try and get it to skim very wet....
    My skimmer isn't even skimming well now...
    Stupid thing to say that the water/bubbles are too "heavy" from the dust in the water column? Dont wanna sound like an idiot here, but this is the only possible explanation i could think of....
     
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    Where are the Guru's ??:m22::m22::m22:
     
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    I have had my water go cloudy after adding no3po4x.

    It cleared up in a day but wasn't as cloudy as your system is.

    I also did a water change which helped.

    I ran some matrix carbon as well.

    dont know if it will work for you maybe give it a try.
     
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    the milkyness is caused with the media binding and bringing it out of solution to a more soluble form.

    you can add carbon and filter floss to clear water

    i need to read again what exactly transpired and will get back to you
     
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    How are you running the phosgaurd, in a bag or reactor? If it is that that has disintegrated then you should see less of it in the bag/reactor.

    Were there any temp spikes?what were the parameters before this all happened compared to what they are now?
     
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    Do you have some snails that could possibly have spawn???
     
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