marine sump volume?

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  1. AHMED

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    hi
    could you please what is the right sump volume to use withe 300 gallon tank?
     
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    Hi Ahmed.

    I dont think there is a exact methord for the sump size, it more depends on what filtering media you want to use - bioballs need a larger sump as the take up more space and not great serface area for bacterial colinisation ect,

    I woul like about a 350 - 400 litre sump , first chamber is narrow with a good quality spunge E.G aquaclear 500 hang on filter foam doubled up to catch machanicle dirt.

    second chamber for a finer sponge or floss, to pollish the water and to keep dirt out of the chemicle filtration media.

    3rd chamber for heater.

    4th chamber for ceramic rings, purigen or charcole.

    last chamber for pump returning water to tank, so make the last chamber big enough to alow for evaperation and a protien skimmer or even a deep sand bed in that chamber with a short slide of glass for the pump to be seperate, but alows water to flow easaly to the pump not to loose space incase the power goes off , the water that has to run back from the top tank might be enough to overflow the drip filter.
     
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    Ah-lan-wa-sahlan to MASA :) (Since you from Saudi Arabia :) )

    You want a sump big enough to hold your skimmer, DSB and return pump. The sump must also be large enough to hold the extra water when the return pump is switched off.
     
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    Ahmed - even though I agree with what was said - my opinion would be the following:
    I would say that you should build the absolute biggest sump that you can fit into the space that is available to you. That said - for a 300 gallon tank, I would say, to go for a least a 1.5 to 1.8 meter sump - IF you can fit this size sump into your available space.

    Your Deep Sand Bed area (DSB) should prefefably take up the biggest portion of your tank's sump.
     
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    I would say steer clear of the Bio-Balls......It's been debated to death as to why.

    And you haven't included room for in-sump skimmers etc....
     
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    I wouldnt use the bioballs iether , it was reference to space needed for a dripfilter in comparison to the diferent bio media available.

    as mentioned for the last chamber , leave space for protien skimmer ect...
     
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    Who still use ceramic rings and bio balls? A No-NO in my opinion.

    The larger the sump the better, but leave place for working and placing equipemnt that you going to use. 4 compartmnets - overflow from tank, equipment (eg. heater, reactors, etc), DSP/refugium (can be split into 2 separate as I am doing on my new tank) and return chambers.
     
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    Most of that is old school and it is generally not recommended to use any of those items you have stated for a reef tank. Whilst bio-balls, ceramic rings, sponges, foam etc. may have their place in certain aquaria type, we try to discourage the use of these items as the majority of them cause nuisance algae problems due to their inability to process Nitrate, the end result being your Nitrate readings increasing and the resultant effect is serious algae problems and dying corals. They are supreme in converting ammonia and nitrite to nitrate, but that is where their function stops, unless of course you basically clean all of the media on a daily basis, these functions can be performed with simply having good water flow, a deep sand bed and sufficient live rock, everything else is a waste of money.

    Chamber 1 - skimmer
    Chamber 2 - DSB
    Chamber 3 - return pump

    Simple yet incredibly effective.

    [​IMG]
     
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    absolutely
     
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    I also agree with Viper357 and would like to add to make the DSB area as big as possible and 12-15cm (5-6inch) deep with very fine, rounded grain sand.
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