Marine Species not for the beginner

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  1. FransSny

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    Hi Guys,

    Ok so we are starting our own base of species rather to avoid in this hobby (especially if you are a beginner....)

    1. Goniopora sp. (Flowerpot Corals)

    The reason I am starting with this beautiful coral and not fish is simply the amount of posts i've seen regarding dead / dying specimens.

    Please STAY AWAY from this coral. It is highly sensitive, semi aggressive and requires a dedicated feeding regime off phytoplankton, zooplankton etc.

    Coulors range from brown to purple, yellow, green etc and they can easily be identified by small daisy like polyps with 24 tentacles.

    For Goniopora to survive and thrive conditions need to be perfect wrt lighting, flow, feeding regime etc.

    In general even ADVANCED reeferrs are not able to keep these species for alive for more than 6 months.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up on this one!:thumbup: hate killing inocent little creatures because of stupidity!
     
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    here is a pic
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    You can put Mandarin's on your list, a lot of newbies would be very tempted to get one. I was one. :p

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    scooter blenny - type of Dragonet
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    Thanks Guys for all the input, wish people would have warned me about a lot of things before i started !

    Just a suggestion....if making a species not a starter species, please provide reasoning so everyone can understand.

    Boendoe...I'll chuck in some info on mandarins...had one for a while now.

    Dalls why the scooter ?

    Also if we all can keep the "I've had no problems with mine ...." comments to a minimum it might also be a good idea as going into why you could make it work would start a new thread all over ;)
     
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    scooter blenny's arent really blenny's there are dragonets like mandarins, need live food etc, no pellets flakes
     
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    Also box fsh, and cow fish as they release poisons that can kill ALL fish in your tank when stressed or die
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    Thanks Dallas...was busy checking them out...maybe include all dragonet species due to what you've said, "NEED LIVE FOOD"

    thus lots of Live rock too keep the food supply going, as they are specilsed and finicky eaters, also shouldn't be housed with aggressive fish.

    Another thing to keep in mind they are now classified as endangered
     
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    I will keep adding
     
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    Shot thanks Dallas, I feel this is an important thread as we all have probably killed an animal out of ignorance / being unaware etc (and wasted money in the process)

    i'll also be adding
     
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    CLEANER WRASSE

    They should be left in the ocean . They don't ship well, do too well in our tanks due to the fact that they are feeders on parasites, mucus , dead tissue etc (most of the time) and also removing them from the ocean ahs a HUGE impact on the reefs around the world
     
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    Powder Blue Tang

    They are extremely prone to whitespot and thus not suitable to any immature system.
     
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    Thanks Neil...is'nt it so with most of the tang species ?
     
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    I would definately agree..... all tangs are not suitable for small tanks as well
     
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    BATFISH

    Awesome are'nt they, DONT SHIP WELL. Difficult to get to eat as they are very timid, also size can become an issue
     
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    Agreed, I did a lot of research on these as I desperately wanted one at the start - waited 18 months before I put one in and so much happier for it! They need a massive pod population to survive
     
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    Hawkfish, longnose or other

    Just a warning - they may be beginner fish, but a lot of beginners (me included) put one of these into a tank with shrimps - their diet includes shrimps
     
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    Startfish

    Guys as nice as they look please stay away.

    These guys dont ship well, are VERY sensitive to changes in water parameters (especially SG) and are difficult feeders. Most are not reef safe either
     
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    I feel very strongly that all species of Anemone should be added to this list.

    While this is dealt with in many seperate threads on Masa, as a summary thread, these should be mentioned here.

    Simply put IF
    your tank has not been stable for 6 months minimum then forget an Anemone
    you dont fully understand the lighting and feeding a water flow and and and requirements then forget the nennie

    I promise Nemo and his buddies will be fine without their "plant"

    The impact the harvesting of these animals is having on wild reefs is horrific !!!!!!!
     
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