Marine Molly :)

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  1. Bong

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    Hi :peroni:--------->:yeahdude:--------->:eek:

    I conditioned a sailfin molly to marine. He has been in the tank for 3 months now. Over the past few days his colour has changed from orange to almost lucid. I think i can see some organs lol. Is this natural as mollies mature / go into saltier water. Is he gonna survive or should i condition him back to the freshside?

    All advice / experiences welcome :thumbup:
     
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  3. belindamotion

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    Sailfin Mollies are Brackish Fish...at what Salinity do you keep it...

    Mollies in Aquariums; Molly Disease, Shimmies

    Tropical Fish for Freshwater Aquariums: Black Sailfin Molly Livebearer
    http://www.thinkfish.co.uk/article/Brackish_Fish
     
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    I think it is because of the very different diet you are feeding him. As far as I know, mollies live in brackish water. There was a project somewhere on an island where they bred banggai cardinals in ponds.
    They fed molly offspring to the banggais.
     
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    Im running range of 1.021-1.023. My diet is standard tetra bits and some brine shrimp every other day. He also is eating algae from sides of tank and the bottom on the sand.
     
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    If at normal salinity, 1.025, then WHY?
    Buy yourself the real marine fish.

    Give the Molly the environment it needs. And I doubt by now that it will survive.
     
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    He was my tester fish, to see how the setup was running. All is well with his behavior just lost a lot of colour. He is a tank fish, so a recondition should be chilled :)
     
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    He should be fine in a marine setup if you acclimatized him slowly/correctly, see this thread Molly breeders - Marine Aquariums of South Africa

    I would think twice about reaclimatizing him to fresh water, they don't do so well going back to fresh and you will have to do it very slowly.

    What is your PH?
     
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    ph is 8

    you can see his original colouration and how most of it has faded.
     
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    its diet related
    they need greens and a good diet

    the question is what are you going to do with him when your tank is ready?
     
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    Noticed your file size is 284.8 KB, it is to big for the uploader, got to be 225kb (and 1920x1080px).
     
  13. KeeganP

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    :arghh: Mean


    Hope you get a marine fish soon and good lucky! .:reddevil:
     
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    thats like sending someone to mars without testing the air first
     
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    no doubt some one at a LFS told you this is good way to cycle your tank?
     
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    I have been watching this thread while holding my tounge , but at times it just becomes too much.

    Firstly , I have to agree that the decision you took to add a mollie to your tank was probably due to advice received , stuff read on the internet (google is not always your friend etc) and thus I am not trying to make you the bad guy in the story.

    Firstly , what do you know about Mollies ? Have you kept them yourself ? If your knowledge is limited , why even buy them .

    Secondly , they are BRACKISH...so no use in a marine setup , yes they will acclimatise over time but will not THRIVE (this is the aim of keeping live stock, keeping something alive is easy....making them THRIVE....a bit more difficult)

    They are losing colour due to your pH being to high (they like a bit closer to the 7,5 range), as well as the diet.

    Now , if you are aiming to get Marine paramaters correct , what in hell is the use of using brackish fish...a lot of other organisms depend on the correct paramaters in order to grow and multiply (bacteria etc). All you are doing is prolonging the cycle (IMHO) as you will need to re adjust paramaters after taking them out.

    Lastly (as mentioned) what will you do with them when you are finished (they will not thrive in a full blown marine environment), tak ethem back to the pet store and they will be chucken into FW immediately (most likely case ) and die , or flush them.

    Bud just do what the rest of us do ....be patient and sit the cycle out...you will see lost of stuff along the way.

    Good luck with getting your setup going
     
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    :biggrin: Nice one.
     
  18. Bong

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    Hi :) The molly has been successfully conditioned back to fresh water and is now in a tropical pond. Did it over roughly 2 days with a drop system and he seems fine.

    The molly was bought to see if my tank was suitable to life :> subsequently i bought a polyp rock and a damsel built up with live rock etc and a clown. My idea was from a youtube video "ballad of marine molly" www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uzu1LKgNkw. I kept them freshies for a while before i converted to marine.

    Not sure about all that cycling stuff. I just get water from the aquarium and that works lekker.
     
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    Oooh gosh,

    This is interesting :)
     
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    No Dude Seriously. rather stick to fresh water. By following what you posted and what you said in the last post you did not do enough research on Marine. I came from a fresh water tank environment and it is 2 total different systems.
    The marine tank is going to cost you a lot of money losing fish and coral.
     
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    On the contrary my setup looking better than ever, all corals growing and spreading nicely.

    The idea of cycling doesn't seem necessary, as I am getting which is matured and comes from marine setups. My sumps got seeded so they were quickly established and my bio load has been very minimum, rather adding live rock (more filtration?) than fish.
     
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