Mandarin fish

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  1. CW

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    Hi PPl

    Just wana know.
    a Mandarin fish, when is it safe to add one in my tank?
    Or maybe 2?

    And how mutch are they round about?

    Cw out:thumbup:
     
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    You gonna need plenty of mature live rock and a healthy pod population. Make sure you dont have any wrasse or copperband that will compete for food if it is a newish system. IF you gonna out 2 in then make sure it is a male and a female cos they will probably kill each other. The male has a longer top fin
     
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    Ive got one fairy wrasse in the tank. His about 25mm long.
    Not to big.

    Do you have a pic of a male and female?
    And if i just put one in?

    How old must my system be?

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    You need a mature sandbed full of pods in your DT for a mandarin unless u get one that eats other foods (which is not so easy to do)
     
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    Ok, but ive got about 48kg of live rock and system has been running since 13Dec2010.
    Ive also seen some huge pods lately.

    Every time i turn on the lights in the morning i see pods hidding.

    Cw out
     
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    Yeah that sounds fine to me ;)
     
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    Cool.

    Any other tips you can give me?
    What fish are they not compatiable with?

    I currently have:
    2 x false apercula clowns
    1 x midas blennie
    1 x fire gobie
    1 x fairy wrasse
    1 x yellow tang
    1 x convict tang
    1 x fox face (large)
    1 x mud skipper (large)

    And some corals
    They dont have problems with coral or do they?

    Cw out:thumbup:
     
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    They wont touch your coral, that stock list will be ok with a mandarin
     
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    I dont know how territorial the mudskipper is?
     
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    I looked at its info on another site.
    And i saw there that mandarins are very reef safe.
    I would just like to get a male and female.

    If i do, must i intruduce them into the tank together or can i put in a male now and a female later?

    Thankx for all the help.
    Whats the cost on them more or less?
     
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    Well he hasent done anything to any fish yet.

    ones when i added a coral he wanted to have a bite at my finger.
    Probaly looked like food.

    hehe

    Cw out:lol:
     
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    Personally, I'd wait 6 - 8 months before introducing a mandarin. To make 100% sure that there is a good sized pod population for them to eat. It's very risky, and if there isn't enough pods, they could starve if they don't accept prepared foods.

    But they are fairly easy to come by, just buy them from a store that knows what they are talking about when it comes to sexing them. You should add both at the same time and not one after the other.

    You can buy tank bred ones, but they are R750 each.
     
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    Ok good.

    Thanx slagter.
    Im anyway waiting for my 2 shrimps.

    Then lateron when ive got cash again ill look into maybe just one mandarin.
    Cos if one dies they will prob both die.
    Then my tank should be about 5-6months old.

    Are mandarins ok with shrimps?
     
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    Mandarins have REALLY tiny mouths. They are 100% fine with shrimp!
     
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    There are a lot of things to consider when buying a mandarin, they are very finnicky fish and the majority will ONLY eat live food, you can supplement their food with live brine shrimp (@mandarinman has perfected this method), but as the guys have said, you really do need a productive tank with a fine sand substrate that will act as their foraging ground and a really good supply of pods. If you have any long green hair algae then try to maintain a patch of this algae as it provides the ideal environment for tiny pods and crustaceans to breed and to provide food for the mandarin.

    Please give your tank a couple more months to mature before getting one of these fish.

    There are various types of mandarins but the most common ones are the spotted mandarin and the green mandarin. If you buy two of these you MUST ensure you get a male and a female, as 2 males will fight. I wouldn't advise having more than one mandarin in a 4ft tank, unless you have a separate productive refugium feeding the display tank.

    When buying a mandarin, have a very good close look at the fish, if it is skinny then don't buy it as I have heard of many stories of people buying skinny mandarins and they end up dying soon after as they are pretty much starving to death, ensure the fish you buy is fat and round. :)
     
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    ok cool.

    Thanx alot.
    Ive pm him so ill see what he says.

    Thanx for the tips. Ive been thinking and maybe ill just get one then.
    But only later on. Not now.

    Thanx
     
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    CW, I personally think you should wait at least a year till you add a mandarin. This is erring on the safe side. But I say this not just so your tank can age, but also because you are new to the hobby, your tank is still very young and probably far being "mature". Also, again, personally - if I was getting a mandarin I would definitely plumb in a fuge that overflows into your DT. These are really special fish, and one of the much trickier species. Alternatively you could try and get a hold of one of the ORA captive bred specimens, they take frozen food much easier. The green spotted is available locally for about R700. But its captive bred, rather than wild caught - and the wild caught ones have atrocious success rates....
     
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    I see.

    No ill wait a while.
    Im just doing some reasurch for now.

    Thanx every body for the help.
    Cw out:thumbup:
     
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