Live rock questions

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  1. sweetnsour

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    sup fellow reefers

    ok so im in need of some very sound advice.,

    with all the aquascaping threads going around i thought id get round to doing mine.

    now ive recently purchased dead/old/Dry Live rock [​IMG]

    around 25 -30kgs and ive since pretley'd everything like i want it.

    but heres the kicker

    the cube is pretty much mature running aprox 1 year now but i have designed the scaping to use all the new rock and to move all the other rock to my softie tank.

    what i wanna do is move all livstock, corals and rock inside the tank to the softie tank and put my new rockwork into the cube.

    what kind of cycle should i expect and how long will it take for a few smalish pieces of cured/mature rock to seed the old rock?

    do you think i can get away with it without any losses?

    and lastly i have a fair amount of substrate in the display, will this aid in the old rock curing time?

    any and all comments welcome

    many thanks in advance before i do anything [​IMG]
     
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    tagging along as i also have LR that has dried out which i want to put into my DT.

    but mine is like only 5 kg of dead LR...
     
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    how long has the softie tank been cycling? where is the rock that was in the softie tank now?
     
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    Hey sweesnsour,
    When I started up my 2.7M about 9weeks ago I used half dried 'dead' live rock that was pure white, mixed with some live stuff I have noticed the following over the last few weeks:
    The 'dead' live rock after week 7 started growing your brown golden algea, and the Live stuff I put in has none on it and the corraline algea has just kept growing. From what I've checked up it is quite common for the dead stuff to do this before it starts getting all the little encrusting organisms and corraline on it!;)
     
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    I am about to do the same...

    Could you link the current sump to the old tank? That may help reduce a cycle and help reduce losses ...?

    Just a thought, perhaps soak the dead rock in RO water for a couple of weeks, changing the water every now and again, that way IF there are any nasties that could cause GHA etc then much of it could be leached out into the RO water before it causes shit in your DT
     
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    thanks for all the help and comments guys

    the softie tank has been running for about a month now and already has lots of cured rock in it from the begining, as well as some home made stuff.

    i do not have any GHA issues in any of the tanks.

    but what im going to do is move all the rock and livestock from my cube which is 1 year old to the softie tank, and put the dead rock in the cube, thus i expect a cycle , but i think the main thing im worried about is how long? as the sps and softies are going to be together for a few week , im worried about chemical warfare and lighting.
     
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    as for linking the 2 tanks eish not possible :(
     
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    reasearching zeovit site, i see alot of the guys just start a tank fresh with dead rock and i assume its ok because thier systems are bacteria driven the cycle is minnute.

    my cube is fully mature already aswell as the DSB (i presume) and i would think just changing all the rock over wont be too hectic a cycle, hoping for about 2 weeks?
     
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    Take everything out clean the tank nicely and start a new full zeovite system, come on you know you want to. Then you don't need to worry about the cycle :)
     
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    Neil I think this would help, but all the small spaces in the 'dead' live rock will still be there when you put them in your DT and until organisms fill those spaces they will be dead area... just an idea what about starting them in your DSB or sump somewhere and after a few weeeks move them across to DT then they should be well seeded. I should have done this!!!:whistling:
     
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    Hello,another option is submersing your new aquascape in the tank sump running now, if you have space or submerse the new aquascape in buckets,add little liverock to seed,use old water from your system to do waterchanges with.Dont forget to add a heater and powerhead.Take it slow.
     
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    if only i could be as brave as you friend ;)
     
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    Just go for it. My sps that I added have already coloured up and are showing major polyp extension, think it might be time for some pics :p
     
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    now you talking go upload them already :thumbup:

    what has the zeo route cost you so far?
     
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    The reactor cost me around R200 to make, the NeoZeo stones were R220 and the MB7 was R100. So with everything needed to start it cost about R500, which is nothing for some happy sps...
     
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    whats your bio load like though? i have 9 fish in the cube and 3 shrimps, hermits, crabs.
     
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    ive always wanted to go this route, but eish to remove the substrate and start again? too much work mate
     
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    This is the perfect time to do it though. One day you going to kick yourself for not switching over now and then it will be too difficult to change. You don't need to take the substrate out, just the dsb...
     
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