Keeping playsand substrate put???

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  1. Drewton

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    Hi everyone, for those of us that are using playsand as a dt substrate, what methods have you employed to keep it put and not create sandstorms and bare patches? How have you configured your flow patterns and how much flow are you using in comparison to dt size and volume?
     
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  3. Drewton

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    I have just recently redone my entire dt due to having to repair it after it began leaking badly a few weeks ago. I have seen other tanks using playsand and love the fine white texture, but it is turning out to be a handful trying to keep it from being blown all ove the place...
     
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    Hey man I have got a 60 cube with playsand and mine does not move..
     
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    I have found it "impossible" to keep still and without barespots with flow generally considered adequate.

    Swithed to aragonite and still have one spot I cannot resolve.

    Also liked the look but gave up
     
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    you need to play and manipulate your flowa bit, its a tiedious task which i have still not prefected but the best i can think of to do is to rather have the bare spots at the back and push excess sand to the front..

    if you can win the battle try find a happy medium...
     
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    I found when you start your tank you will always have sandstorms.
    Once the tank matures and life starts living in the substrate this problem becomes less and you ca actually add more flow if you like.
     
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    the sand does "grow" together as works and other d=creatures inhabit the substrate so in time it should get better, i recently changed substrate from med/coarse to fine and i have retarted the entire proces ..

    but yes it will get better with time if the substrate gets the opportunity to bond..
     
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    yes agree, later on, the sand move less.

    My bare spot on my older 220L tank was right in the middle at the front. Eventually gave up but luckily the coraline algae covered it eventually.
     
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    On this same topic, I plan on using playsand for my DSB, how do you wash it?
     
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    I have a bare spot at the front of my tank but I dumped an assortment of seashells and stuff there so it covers it.

    Other than that, I dig it because it allows light into my sump area! :)
     
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    Wash it out with normal tap water like 25 times and 5 times with RO water
     
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    about 5L of sand at a time in a bucket with hose pipe. Takes forever. Find a spot in the shade with your beer within arms length.
     
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    I originally had aragonite in the tank, but i found it trapped detritus like anything and i had to vacuum it regularly and still couldnt really get it clean. Hence trying the playsand, figured the grains are close enough together to keep the gunk on top so that it can be lifted with flow and filtered out.
     
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    I like this idea, but i find if i concentrate the flow towards the back my hammers get worked by the current. Not quite sure how much current they can stand?
     
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    @Drewton
    Do you have hermits?
    Seeing that you are from Durban, collect a couple of Yellow Tip hermits. They stay small in relationship to other hermits and do a good job in my system to keep substrate clean.
     
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    Ive got a Seio 5000lph and a 5000lph sun sun, as well as my return which gives me about 5500lph at tank height, this gives me about 15k lph circulation in the dt. I find if i turn off the sunsun the stuff stays put. How much flow should be used in a typical 4 ft dt??
    Would the Seio and the return alone be sufficient?

    Shot for all the constructive replies guys!:thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    I only have one medium sized yellow tip hermit at the mo, i did have a few more but this oke klapped the rest for their shells. Reckon i might take a trip down to ellingham this weekend and grab a couple. 5 or 6 maybe?:whistling:
     
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    how big is your tank?
    what is in your sump area? Maybe sump the one bigger dude.
    Do you have bigger empty shells laying around. So that its easier for hermit to take a new shell than to fight for it.
     
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    Tank is1200x450x500, sump is 1000x450x450. Sump has 3 chambers, centre one being DSB chamber 600x450x300 which is just over half full with fine coralsand(about 180 deep). First chamber has TS2, chiller pump and phos reactor, return chamber has return pump and LR. I could sump him in the dsb area, but would he not disturb the dsb too much?
     
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    Is play snd the same a silica sand. I have 2 or 3 buckets of silica sand. Not vey fine but also not medium. This is the same type of sand used in pool fiters, will it be ok for my display
     
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