Just bought a tank scared shrimpless

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  1. shiks

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    Hey there guys/gals ....just bougtht a juwel tank yest ...scared as hell.....that i am gonna make a mistake.....sourced it from Northland Pets here in Durbs....they seem friendly.....gonna take delivery in abt a week ....:thumbup: wanna take it slow....any advice ????
     
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    Yeah, good luck.....

    Btw, welcome to Masa
     
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    welcome to masa,

    dont stress about it too much, the guys on here will lead you through all the things you dont understand, just ask as many questions as you can:) its great great fun
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    thanks....
     
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    ok is it true that u have to use ocean water...???? what abt synth salt they sell in stores......is either one better than the other....
     
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    You'll definately get different opinions,but I'd like to tag on this one- good question....
     
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    hi Shiks.you can use Natural Sea Water or synthetic.getting into which one is better is a long topic on its own.i use bothe NSW and at times synthetic.should you use NSW,collect from a clean beach where theres no storm water outlets and lotsa bathers.also try and collect water on an incomming tide
     
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    Both have there advantages and disadvantages but for what your going to be doing NSW is completly fine. SPS okey are the only ne realy needing NSW.
    Hope this helps
     
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    i use synthetic as I am in jhb and i have been looking to see what different brands are like, both in price and avaiability. at the moment i do large water changes (several reasons for that) and thus use lots of salt, but if you are not sure of where you are sourcing natural water from, then go with synthetic as you know EXACTLY what you are putting in. to start i think that is very valuable, helps illiminate problems:)
     
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    so as i understand..water.. fresh ocean salt water needs to be collected from a clean beach and filled into the tank. Surely u still have to clean and detox the water via use of chemicals to make it fish and rock friendly??? Why not just use sythethic stuff rather to begin with cos u gonna use similar chems to get the balance right anyway??I want to buy anemones and fish and other liverocks from the pet store...It would be nice to know which system synth or fresh salt water will be a better transition for the stuff.
     
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    Hey Shiks welcome to MASA, nice to have you on board. This debate can really go on there are plenty aquarists using NSW successfully in their systems myself included and i dont use anything to clean or detox the water and i have never had any problems. In the same breath there are plenty successful aquarists using synthetic salts.....the choice is yours. As for what live stock you going to add to your system please research that carefully as many of these animals have very specialised needs ie water flow, lighting etc etc, this is not just about synthetic or Natural sea water.
    Research is the best investment you will make in this hobby.
     
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    +1 on what he said ^

    BTW welcome to MASA.

    Remember with making up synthetic salt water you going to need to use RO water. RO is also needed to top up evapouration for that matter.

    Do you know about RO water (Reverse Osmosis), or is that your next question :D
     
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    Dont worry people gave me hell about not knowing thing when i started(still a lot i need to ask) but tell us when you dont know what something is.
     
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    They still give me hell and I only learned a bit since the beginning:whistling:
     
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    shot for the warm welcomes..water issue seems solved and will try the NSW first. Another thing i needed to know ..the guy at pet store sounded very credible when he said i could take my time to set up the tank properly ( financially it looks very expensive to have all the nice things in @ one go) i was thinking around 1 to 2 months ....but i have read some previous discussions with some pros prepping a tank in a weekend.... 1st Q IS IT REALLY THAT EXPENSIVE or is it just where u go 2ND Q is it better to slowly introduce each item(liverock and fish) to allow settling in OR rather put all eggs in one basket and hope for the best ??????
     
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    Am not stressed abt this but just want to know if my idea of adding a new item as i can afford it will work out ...or if there is a better chance of hitting it all right by setting up in one go
     
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    As a general suggestion, adding slowly in the beginning is a very good idea. That way your natural filtration can adjust in small increments (bacteria counts adjust naturally based on additional food sources etc). Also, if you add everything together in the beginning, and you screw something up, you lose everything - not good.

    One exception is certain types of fish. Some (most?) fish are territorial, and once they've established their territories, it becomes more difficult to add other fish, particularly of similar families. So there may be an argument for adding quite a few at once, rather than one at a time in this case.

    My suggestion would be to pick a few, easy to keep (less territorial) fish, add them at a rate of one every few weeks, and similary add one or two corals every week or two. Ideally start off with smaller coral frags (ideally ones that your buddy's donate ;-) ), rather than large expensive ones from the shop. That way you can experiment and learn a bit, without breaking the bank. Also your buddies will be able to advise you as to what's easy to keep, and what conditions they do best under. Zoanthids, leathers and m,ushrooms seem like popular first choices.
     
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    my second coral was a candy cane, first was poypls.
    I would say get a candy cane so you have a lttle practice.
     
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    Here is a photo with my tank when it had 80 nitrate

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