Its time - new tank - lets talk size

Discussion in 'General Discussions and Advice' started by mytank, 19 Oct 2011.

  1. mytank

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    So I am bored and want a new bigger tank. Not sure of the size yet was thinking 2m by 1m but then there is long and shallow there is cube (I have one now) there is so many things.

    Need ideas what do you guys think? Would love to get some ideas.
     
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    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    what is your budget?
     
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    Don't have one :) I want to work with an empty canvas
     
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    the most important factor in a large tank is depth, front to back, so anything from 1400 to 2000 long but atleast 800wide is my opinion, my current tank is 800wide and its amazing

    the length of the tank can be factored 2 ways, longer for more swimming fish, eg tangs etc or island scaping, then shorter length but higher tank.

    1800*800*600h is a good size and should last years
     
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    That does sound like a good size! What's the evaporation on a tank that size?
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    there is no real set aquation for evap as there are to many external factors, but i can dig one up
     
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    Dangerous Words!!! :p

    Well If you have done the reef idea a few times now - go extreme! do a very big predator tank.. black tip with a few other predators.
    No coral, only LR with natural light via skyligt... or something like that..

    Otherwise - a 2 x 1 x 1m tank (waterlevel on about 950-980) all starfire.. and do a species tank (tangs only, or angels, or butterflies etc.)

    There are so many options
     
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    The evaporation rate in the system, is estimated using the equation W = [A + (B)(V)](Pw - Pa)/Hv

    where: W = water evaporation rate, (lb/hr) per sq.ft. of surface area
    A = a constant = 95 ,
    B = a constant = 37.4 ,
    V = air velocity over the surface, miles/hr
    Pw = vapor pressure of water at the water temperature, inches of Hg
    Pa = vapor pressure of water at the air dewpoint temperature, inches of Hg
    Hv = heat of vaporization of water at the water temperature, Btu/lb

    A good set of Steam Tables will provide you with the latent heat of vaporization and the vapor pressure of water at the temperatures involved. The vapor pressures may be provided in units other than inches of Hg, and you will need to make the conversion.


    so the best way is to measure evaporation is to actually measure water loss in the system daily and average it out, and remember evaporation is more in cold air then in hot :) also i think this math is a little more complicated for reefing
     
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    I still like my corals :) a predator tank tickles me but it limits me and a black tip needs a huge tank bigger than a 2m. Love angels but they eat coral :)

    Might do Tangs get a gem or ach shoal with some sand shifters. IMO corals make the tank :)

    I really like the shark idea :)
     
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    I'll do the measurements rather ;)
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    i would say you looking at about 5-10L a day but under that tank you can fit a sump and atleast a 100L RO topup drum
     
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    my 2c

    sharks are a bad idea, they should only be kept in public aquaria.. but my opinion..

    as for the system i would rather be looking at monthly running costs instead of initial outlay which is once off..

    bigger tanks are hungry where lighting and flow is concerned.. and for a shark system you would need a very effiecient (expensive) skimmer to handle the feeding..

    i think its easier to comment if you have a biotope in mind...
     
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    No shark that was just a cool idea :)

    I am mixed now I love LPS but want to try SPS if I go SPS I would look at Zeovit but then my LPS is going to suffer sigh
     
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    Thats why i said its "dangerous words".. so many options available.. I agree, sharks should be kept in only big tanks, like public aquaria.. but he said no budget, open canvas :tt2: !!!
     
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    LPS will not suffer using Zeovit, infact they will grow even faster and colour just the same, remember Zeovit is about nutrient export on a 24/7 cycle, all the Zeovit products will benefit all corals, and they even have a LPS amino but i am sure @Submariner can confirm this
     
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    im going to stay LPS and i would like to go Zeo in the future.. i have seen some awsome LPS tanks using the system..
     
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    LPS amino acid

    You are correct Dallas

    Zeovit do a LPS Amino acid.
     
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