Is this params fatally high?

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    this is the params of my fowlr tank.
    Ammonia:0,25
    NO2:0,1
    NO3:25
    PH8,2
    Salinity:0,024
    If its fatal what will help only a water change
     
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    Ammonia is really really high. You sure your test kits are right? How long has your tank been running? Have you changed anything lately?
     
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    What test kits you using?
     
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    Red Sea marine lab I added a small confict 2 small butterflys and a brown yellow tail sergion yesterday wild caught
     
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    Your salinity is a problem.it needs to be 35 ppt
     
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    And that will be 0,0what.Itest it at lfs and they use a refractometer(I think)
     
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    It must be 1.024 - 1.026

    Not 0.024 like you said. I'm sure you made a typo.
     
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    Bud salinity is measured in ppt and is not temperature dependant. Most quariusts strive for 35ppt which is the average Salinity of most reefs. So when quoting salinity it is not necessary to quote temperature, but it needs to be in "ppt"
    Specific gravity is not an exact scale in that it is temperature depended and is measured relative to the density of a solution. It is important to quote the instrument calibration temperature as a salinity of 35ppt can vary in SG from 1.023 to 1.028 depending on the temperatures of 15 to 25 deg C.

    In other words, if the SG measured was 1.024 at an instrument calibration of 20c then the actual SG at 25c will be 1.0226.

    This may sound picky, but it will have an effect on other parameters like KH, PH, Calcium, Magnesium etc.

    Bud i hope this helps you understand the difference between Salinity and Specific gravity. There are many aquariusts that still get confused after many years of reefing. Best to get a proper understanding from the word go. :thumbup:
     
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    I just read that and it makes absolutely no sense to me. . . . I feel sorry for a beginner trying to fathom it. Dude, you salinity is spot on. Do huge water changes. . . Dilution is the solution to solution.
     
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    Dude, you salinity is spot on. Do huge water changes. . . Dilution is the solution to solution.
     
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    Bud, Where are you finding it difficult to make sense? Yeah i suppose i do tend to shorten things sometimes. This link gives a better explanation.

    Salinity vs Specific Gravity
     
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    How long has the system been running?
     
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    yup. . .makes sense. Sorry, just me being dof
     
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    System running for 7 months.So what you are telling me is that the reading the lfs gives me could be wrong
     
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    Salinity vs Specific Gravity

    good to know is there a chart like that around here as well
     
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    If it's the "Older" type Red Sea Reef test kits then I would not trust the Nh3/Nh4 and No2 tests, I tried serveral, they where always wrong. I would try another make of test kit (perhaps the new Redsea) or a different shop that uses a different make.

    As for your SG, IS it 0.024 or 1.024? I'msure the later othewise the fish would've probably died. Is this the case? did fish die?

    How many litres is the system?
     
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    Yes.
    Salinity is the most important parameter one needs to keep stable. One might feel it unnecessary to test if you are using NSW but the salinity does change from day to day. It is very important when mixing salt mixes.

    If the LFS tested your water with a refractometer or hydrometer and did not give you the reference temperature, and told you the salinity is 1.024 (should have said, SG is 1,024 @ 20c), chances are they may not fully understand how to use a refractometer and what SG is. I am only bringing this to your attention so that you understand what SG is. And that temperature is important in getting a constant reading.

    If there is anything you do not understand from the link, please ask, and is will try and explain for you.
     
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    sorry was typo its 1.024 and its about +_250L tank tank size is 1200x450x450.How does the old and new red sea kits look
     
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    Have to find out if they know how to work the instuments
     
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