is shop caviar the same as roe?

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  1. Barlan

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    hi all, so this might come across as a dumb question, but better safe than sorry imo.

    so, i read that one can feed roe to fish, but the only roe i know if is caviar from pnp or a fish shop. now i know this is loaded with preservatives and salt and other stuff, so is it safe to feed to the fish?

    where would i find this other roe and what would it look like? one post said get the roe sack from a fish shop and empty out the roe. i have never seen this anywhere let alone heard of a fish shop having that.

    what are your recommendations and suggestions?

    also, does roe sink? (i guess depending on the answer to the above, i'll find out :))

    thanks in advance.
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    its way more expensive, you can gt ON fish eggs for R45 or so
     
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    Either use the ON one or buy fresh roe from a fish market (not sure how freely available it is in Jhb).
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    For for about that, in randburg fish market it's R14 a kg
     
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    Roe is eggs from commercially caught, local fish such as hake and stockfish. Caviar is the semi-preserved eggs of the FW sturgeon. Roe in PE is around R20 a kilo, while decent beluga caviar is around R70 000 to R100 000 a kilo. Use what you can afford, caviar has minimal preservatives.
     
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    Supper at Richards house next time im having so Caviar and:peroni: there
     
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    i'll take 2kg's please :whistling:
     
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    @Barlan,
    I use fishroe on a daily basis as a midday "snack" to my fish. I buy a few kilos at once and freeze it. The fishroe I buy is normal Hake fish eggs. Its tubes filled with millions of tiny eggs. I cut the whole tube into small "wheels" for lack of a better word. Freeze it. And when you feed the fish, (depending obviously on the size of your tank and how many fish), just hold the tiny piece in your hand until it dissolves or release the eggs into the water. The piece of "skin" is also eagerly eaten. It an excellent snack to feed especially if you have Anthias that need regular feeds. Just one word of caution. Feed sparingly.... it can foul your water!
     
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    :022: i'd go for the R20 p/kg
     
  11. Barlan

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    @dallasg, where is the randburg fish market?
     
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    ok update, we can get hake roe from a fish shop, but its frozen.

    according to the lady, its still in the sack thingies, so we can defrost and then refreeze.

    but my concern is this, will it still be ok to use? i know you cant refreeze thawed meats cause it turns toxic, wont the same happen here? i dont want to poison my fish!

    worst case scenario, i've gotta hack a sack/roll off and saw it apart to get my portions, but i will admit, defrosting will make life easier!

    so what do you guys recommend here?
     
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    its on beyers naude drive, just before where the steers drive thru

    any fish market or cod father that sells fish should have
     
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    Barlan Thread Starter

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    oooh so by fish market you mean any fish shop, aka a fishery, like seven seas.

    cool.

    what about the refreezing issue?
     
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    mine came frozen, i keep it in the freezer and hack off a piece, dilute in tank water and feed...

    every single creature goes wild for it in my tank
     
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    just a word of caution as the preserveatives used on meat/fish products often contain high levels of phosphates.
     
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    Dallas is right..... fish go crazy for them. Mine was not frozen, but I prepared it (as previously explained) froze them and just take small pieces as you need. They dont have any preservatives as they are fresh from the sea. Its not a prepared food. But still, I would not go crazy with the feeding. Its very high in fat.
     
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    I buy mine semi frozen from PnP, and cut into wheels like Helga said. Then I stick them into the freezer. I've never had a problem feeding my fish refrozen roe (as long as you don't try eat it:eek:). I think if you are going to thaw it out to cut it, don't let it get warmer than about fridge temp.
     
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    Just grate the frozen egg-sacks with a cheese grater into the tank... This way also opens the individual eggs and feed whatever inverts you have...

    Neither roe, nor caviar contains preservatives...
     
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    we only have 4 fish and 2 very greedy cleaner shrimps, so we wont be feeding much.

    off the topic quick, but still related to feeding :)

    i have a firefish that is very very shy, she's normally out swimming, but when i feed she freaks out and darts back into her cave, she doesnt seem to know how to pick food off the substrate, so i've only seen her eat pellets that she catches as they sink.

    who ever has a firefish, do you have the same problem?

    thank you for all the info, but i still dont have an answer to whether or not re-freezing the roe will cause it to become toxic/poisoned like normal meat products or if it'll be ok.

    i dont have it yet, so i cant assess whether i can hack pieces off or not.

    to be honest, i dont know how to prep the stuff, and google isnt being very helpful.

    might as well get some steps here in the mean time. :)

    so...
    step 1: purchase roe
    step 2: most likely defrost as it makes it easier to work with
    step 3: ??????
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  21. Barlan

    Barlan Thread Starter

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    lol,just in case you guys think i wasnt reading, all the posts came in while i was replying :) so thank you!

    hi richard, tell jen berns says hello :)

    so i dont need to wash it off or anything like that?
     
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