Is feeding your fish necessary?

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  1. dallasg

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    That article is a bit misleading. Look at the corals hes keeping, he prob puts more food in that tank than most reefers.
     
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    actually he is the inventor of miracle mud system and claimes his mud makes enuff
     
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    What is The Miracle Mud System..? I'm reading, but it basically explains how it works...not what you have to do to implement the "system"..sorry Newbie...but I'll read anything that helps curb man's desire to "tinkle" the whole time with his Tank..
     
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    its a cool system, but its very expensive here in SA to import
    basically replacing your dsb with miracle mud etc
     
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    So it is actual "mud"...any good Sites I can read about this and any SA Sites or LFS in SA...?
     
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    that link is the site, click the home buttom
     
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    Always though of Miracle Mud in/for a refugium or perhaps a sump, it makes sense for me. Never thought of using it inside the actual DT?
     
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    I've hardly ever fed fish. People usually freak out when I say I feed maybe once a week :p
     
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    In the article I see there was even a mandarin goby!:eek:
     
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    I think investing in such a thing is pointless. It kind of defeats the whole purpose of having a marine tank. Just invest in a high res screensaver for ure pc!
     
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    it does work, and very well!
    i have run it in a sump with a skimmer and return pump
     
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    That's actually why I'm very interested in it...I basically have no life..:p..panic whenever we go somewhere, forever thinking something is going to stop working and all will die..:blush:..something like this could make us "socialise" again..:lol::lol:
     
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    @dallasg ...when I grew up my mom had a 3ft tank with gold fish and every time someone walks by the fish were fed...that resulted in me having to clean out the tank every week and re stocking it ..so eventually when I started my marine tank I did the same but only 2 or 3 times a day..only later to find out that fish can go without us feeding it daily..my tank was at a mates house for 3 years.. as I travelled allot and the food I left with him at first was given back to me when I fetched the tank again...he might have used a third of the food not even a half a tea cup in 3 years...he only fed once a week and very little..
    The 4 fish that I left with him was still alive and well after all this time and I still have them today after 12 years it is a coral beauty: peculiar clowns and cardinal fish...fish eat as much as the size of their eye...and that is not mush well that is what they need to survive on each day if given more they will eat more but that’s what they need..If you have a matured system you don’t need to feed the fish I suppose it depend on type of fish...but they stay in size to the proportion of the tank and feed of the system...when you keep over feeding them they can out grow a tank and that is un natural to have a 6 inch regal in a 4ft tank...
    The bottom line is: people feed their fish so much that they need to keep skimmers and scrubbers and all these other gadgets to keep water conditions up that is not necessary if we let nature take its course and become responsible reefers...in the old days we kept 1 inch fish for every sq foot surface aria in marines that was always the ratio.. So in a average 4ft tank maybe 5 fish of 3-4 cm each max...now days they keep up to 10 and more fish with most of them 6cm and more.. and over feeding and keep adding gadgets to accommodate the live stock and over feeding...my question remains..what happens if your gadgets crush when you are away for the weekend ...disaster and we hear of this weekly here, and on other forums...but the conservative and responsible reefer he only worry about top-up’s when going on holiday..
    I have read a article on this guy that started the magic mud with his 400gl reef tank without any gadgets not even a skimmer and after 10 years haven’t lost a fish or coral ...so I do believe in and promote save reefing as to reefing on the limits if I could call it that...Sorry if I went of topic here..But I believe if I have to ever start a sump it will be filled with magic mud and a trigal filter..And if I want 10 or more medium to large fish I know I need a 400 gallon tank or bigger...just my 5c....
     
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    Ok ok, maybe i am a bit wrong... there are pros after reading what you all have written. But 1 thing that attracted me to marine fish tanks was when i went to the pet shop, and each time i stuck my finger to the glass and moved it, the clown fish followed it hoping for a treat... I loved Oscar fish for that exact reason. Granted, i dont think it would be wise to "hand feed" marine fish in fear of adding toxins to the water, but the begging of food is adorable! Automated feeding would take that away. Granted that if i go away on holiday its an ingenious idea... however while im at home, id prefer the "manual" feeding.
    Im still a newb so im im wrong with anything, i do welcome all and any criticisms and advice :) as long at kind words are uttered haha
     
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    @jacoc...what's a "trigal filter"..:blush:
     
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    lol... id like to go on holiday again without having a heart attack everytime my phone rings thinking the worse. . . so how much is this and who has it??
     
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    Sorry for the spelling...it's actually a trickle filter...it's a wet dry filtration method also widely used in the sewage industry to filter the sewage and in septic tank’s to filter the sewer water where there is no sewer systems in place to brake down the sewer and allow clean water to enter the ground and not pollute our natural water under ground...it's very effective in dealing with aerobic and anaerobic stages needed in our systems..To me the simplest and best filter method available...It’s been tested since the beginning of time and is still today...I’m using a little 5liter filter in my 315 l tank and haven’t lost any ls in 10 years and I only do water changes 3 times a year and the rest I do that is against every ones believes is i’ve been using tap water since the beginning and even now..I will start with ro water when rand water stops working..no skimmer or any other gadgets..
    Sorry dallas I’m of topic again...:eek:
     
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    Jacoc, do you have a tank thread?

    I added miracle mud to my dsb when I set my tank up 9 month ago. But also used 4 other types of sand.
     
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