If you want to go SPS with LED's

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  1. Renannchen

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    WOW! Awesome colors in that tank!

    I saw some LED lighting unit here at a LFS - and WOW! Did those coral colors POP! Geez!
     
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    The unit was over a frag tank - mind you. The main tank had a 8 x 54 watt T5 unit over the top. The main tank actually looked slightly bland, compared to the frags at the bottom!
     
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    this is strange I'm starting to notice a trend, beautiful tank, no torch corals, no hammer corals tho, need to do some research.
     
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    Yes Wes. Torch and hammer corals can be QUITE aggresive, and their polyps sometimes extend and sting other corals, especially SPS.

    One thing in a coral tank like this - the owner would have to run some SERIOUS Activated carbon or something similar to remove the toxins from the water, that the corals excrete, as defensive mechanisms.
     
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    I've started to struggle to keep torch and hammer corals, since my nutrient levels have been low, just doesn't make sense, do they require higher than average nutrient levels, in terms of phosphates and nitrates?
     
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    My frogspawn is quite close to one of my zoa colonies and they are fine together, however my hammer is a nasty dude, put a small frag next to it and forgot it at night, next day they were all closed, almost lost the entire frag, only had three heads left!
     
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    How low is low @Wes? i think they like some nutrients, probably below 5ppm, but above 0.5 of NO3, could be wrong.
     
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    phosphates at 0.01
    Nitrates at 2 or 3 ppm or lower
     
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    Mmmmm, my nitrates are sitting at 2-3 too, but PO4 is at 0.08, your stuff shouldn't be unhappy, as my lps are thriving.
     
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    LPS (long-polyed stony) are closer to soft-corals, than really to hard corals. They do prefer between 5ppm and 10ppm nitrate levels. It is extremely difficult to really keep LPS corals 100% successfully together with a stunning SPS system (due to the water movement SPS requires, the low nutrient water and the high lighting that SPS requires)...

    Ditto Carlos! So - yes. LPS could possibly affect soft-corals, but soft-corals are a LOT more hardy than SPS corals
     
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    they dont mind nutrients at all.. actually flourish in polyp size and thickness when the nutrients are a little up...

    my xenia is crashing i think i have gotten a little too dilegent with my maintenance routine?
     
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    LOL Les. That's what I believe - it is VERY VERY VERY diffcult to succesfully keep soft-corals and LPS-corals, together with SPS corals. Because SPS requires extremely low nutrient levels, where-as LPS and softies flourish on higher nutrient levels!
     
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    Awesome tank. Actually there are many epic builds that had the likes of MH's and have now switched over to LED's...still holding their colors and in some species actually improving.

    Also IMHO its a bit of a misnomer about keeping the likes of LPS and SPS together, where a nutrient starved tank is seen not as being beneficial for the likes of LPS....trust me, the two can co-exists very well together in a tank geared for SPS.....just feed the tank more and keep your nutrient export husbandry in tip top shape.
     
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    Absolutely beautiful Tank
     
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    Where in the ocean do you find LPS, and where SPS.

    LPS is lower down. Cannot handle waves crashing down. Too strong water movement will tear the LARGE polyp stony coral to pieces. SPS are a lot higher up. Strong water movements will not rip the small polyps to pieces.

    And their location determines the nutrient level as well. LPS is used to detritus, fish poo, and whatever else raining down on them from higher up.

    More so for leathers like pin cushions.

    And that is the reason why you struggle to keep a mix reef tank. The requirements differs too much between leathers, LPS and SPS. Well, some guys are lucky. But to really succeed. Your system should focus on one area of the reef.
     
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    To add to Riaan's comment - a LOT of LPS corals are collected from calm island or marine lakes, where there isn't a lot of current or waves.
     
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    So you need a system like this........:whistling:



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    :005:...yes...very sharp...:005:..I didn't even think of that Tank...PERFECT example..:005:
     
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