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Discussion in 'ID Needed' started by Tobes, 30 Aug 2011.

  1. Tobes

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    Hi guys

    A friend of mine's sister in-law went to the Natal coast and surprised him last night with a bucket full of little fish, snails and hermits.
    The other fish are algae blennies and a cleaner wrasse, but this one I'm not sure. Looks like a type of wrasse as well? It is in my tank atm, sorry for pic, he doesn't sit still :p

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    Next on the list, a snail

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  3. robvdv

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    Dunno about the fish, but that shell looks a bit like a cone shell. Some of them are very poisonous, so get a positive ID before touching it.
     
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    Hey, the fish is a wrasse. Not sure if its a surge or ladder wrasse. Wait till someone else comments. It can be very naughty and aggressive when it gets bigger and it can get a lot bigger. The snail is a cone snail, not good at all!!! Be careful handling it.
     
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    Well, I just got a call from my friend saying he has this stuff and what must he do. His tank is not running yet, so helped him out. Don't want them to die and I agree they should've been left it in the ocean.
    Maybe @SteveZi can help?
     
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    That's commonly called a ladder wrasse.
    Thalasoma sp.

    Will have to check my Burgess Atlas for its full name.
    Quite common down here, they get huge and very colourful when fully grown.
    Bit agro for my liking
     
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    The snail is a cone. They eat mostly very small worms in your sand bed. It will eventually die, last about 1 year. Not that poisonous, compared to cone snails that eat fish. But be careful. Always bump them around a bit so they retract before you handle it.

    I had one. Lived on my DSB for a year.
     
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    Thanks, they also say it's a surge wrasse, gets 12 inches long and not reef friendly :(

    I know exactly how long is 12 inches :whistling:
     
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    Thanks guys, so it looks like it is a surge wrasse as AfricaOffroad confirmed, and I thought the snail was a cone, and you guys confirmed that :)
    Touched it already last night :whistling:
    It's actually scary to think that their kids just took it out from the pools - they could've gotten harpooned and peed themselves :blush:
     
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    I have two cones, they only eat my algae, (EVEN NORI), also thought that all cones are predatory, but I think not (internet is not complete with info), not sure about your species though, as MOST are predatory!
    Mine having feeding radula like my slugs and other molluscs.

    FISH, I have no idea!
     
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    Hi,
    I agree with the surge wrasse.

    the snail - i think riaan is right - looks like a Conus ebraeus and supposedly feeds on polycheate worms.
    the snailman strikes again!:)
     
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    :eek::p
     
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    Thanks for the info guys :)

    o ja, and the button was used ;)
     
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    These snails are not that dangerous. Try the fish eating cones. They immobilize a gobie or clown in less than a minute. And they have a longer harpoon. That can reach all the way to the back end of their shell, so do not even pick them up at the back end. They are the ones we should watch out for, especially with kids.

    The other dangerous snails, as in can hurt you ore the Strombidae snails. Although they are a very nice snail to get in terms of clean up crew, their operculum back end is extremely sharp. And they can stab you with that. They are the only mollusc that can defend themselves against octopus.
     
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    So if these snails I got stings me I will not completely pee myself but just leak a few drops?
     
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    Not sure, but I reckon its still going to sting like hell.
     
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