I just can't get my water right!

Discussion in 'Water Parameters and Additives' started by RocketRooster, 20 Feb 2013.

  1. RocketRooster

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    Bloomin' hell. My nitrates are back up to 25 and phosphate back up to .5!

    I did a 100l water change this weekend (I do this every weekend). RO and salt mix checks out. So something is leaching that rubbish in my tank.

    That said, I have been feeding more than I should, trying different things to entice my clown to eat. Nitrate I can understand, but so much phosphate? My water changes aren't even making a dent it seems.

    I am skimming very wet to get as much kak out of the water as possible (one full TS2 cup a day). Am I simply asking too much of this skimmer? My phosban 550 with np pellets is a joke, that shit doesn't live up to the hype.

    Something in my tank also has a hectic appetite for Magnesium. Dropped from 1385 to 1200 in the space of 3 days. Is this a good or a bad omen? I am getting very robust coralline and red velvet algae growth - is that the cause maybe? I thought maybe it's my wet skimming but the percentages don't add up.

    Any advice for a sukkeling oke?

    Thanks!
    Riaan
     
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  3. CarlosF

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    get a real pellet reactor if you want to run pellets
     
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    RocketRooster Thread Starter

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    I don't particularly care for it one way or the other, it came with the tank buy but it just adds heat, wastes juice and clutters up the sump as far as I'm concerned.

    But while it is obviously not helping to solve my problems, it isn't causing it either.
     
  5. CarlosF

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    if pellets dont do good then they migjt be pushing to much in too your water back.. And a ts2 is bit of a crappy skimmer, espesially with a bunch of fish and pellets
     
  6. Ridwaan

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    I say upgrade the skimmer..try some orca bio cubes and phos remover...
     
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    Broer, you're always nagging me to upgrade it, and perhaps the time is nigh! :D
     
  8. mytank

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    There is a really nice skimmer in the for sale ;)

    I would treat the nutrients quickly before its start binding to the rocks Etc like I have .

    Bio cubes - yes
    Phosphate remover - yes

    Also even though its high bring it down slowly remember corals adapt to high nutrients reducing them quick can be disastrous
     
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    Try nopox by Redsea.
     
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    Visser MASA Contributor

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    Im also for the nitra-guard & gfo reactor!
    The better skimmer would also be a great help for many moons to come!
     
  11. trad

    trad Fish, thats the word!

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    Pellet are the bomb youRe doing it wrong... My tank is super clean with them
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    We can chat sat morning, panic is the worst enemy
     
  13. Seabass

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    My latest results using nopox, 2 weeks ago PO4 was 3.6 and NO3 was 2. Increased nopox to 15ml for 2 weeks and tested again. PO4 now 0.08 and NO3 is 0.75.

    My skimmer does rock, reef octo 5000 int on a 500lt mixed reef.

    Well worth it, no reactors required, just add each day as required.
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    There are plenty cures, its the source we need to find

    Yes over feeding will cause both to rise a lot
    You just moved your system, so stability needs to be regained and I am sure there is a lot of gunk in the rocks etc
     
  15. CarlosF

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    true dat:thumbup:
     
  16. DeanT

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    How Old Is the tank ?
    That would be the best
    Place to start - sorry if I am wrong

    I had constant battle and had huge GHA problems
    Introduced bio
    Pellets and phosphate reactor , and all
    Of a sudden my tank started to mature and then everything was gone

    Was amazed , but I think the combo of bio pellets and phosphate reactor was a great investment especially if you cannot pin point the problem

    Also dosing of bacteria like bioptim and biodigest will assist
     
  17. Trasique

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    totally agree, only bad things happen quickly in marine aquariums. wait for proper stability to be achieved then work from there. Try and locate the source.

    • overfeeding?
    • Using RO?
    • substrate and Live rock?
    • etc.
    en onthou hastig is nie gou nie
     
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    how long have you been running the pellets
     
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    @RocketRooster, are you not coming to the masa meeting? You can chat then to all of us and collect your hydrometer, I am going to start charging it Northern Property Rental rates!:whistling::biggrin:
    I agree with @dallasg, dont panic. The only way to get your NO3 down to zero would be to do a 100% water change, and that would be silly.
    Don't forget, water changes are futile in terms of getting your NO3 down if your husbandry is not up to scratch. Many peeps forget that their main function is to replenish lost trace elements, but then only do small ones of five percent so that you don't destabilise the rest of your system.
     
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  20. RocketRooster

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    Lots to digest here.

    My skimmer is likely not up to task. That's problem one. I have a lot of gunk settling in my middle chamber. Probably a mix of uneaten chow and unprocessed poop.

    My biofiltration is also clearly not enough. I have a lot of LR in the display, but that may also be the source of the issues. Or at least a contributor.

    The LR spent maybe 4 to 5 hours in aerated bins during the move. Would it really have died off that much?

    I'm considering going barebottom to eliminate the substrate as a source of issues. But clearly I need to get my biofiltration in order before I consider it.
     
  21. dallasg

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    patience, your tank is still very new, moving it reset everything no matter how long it was running before.. the secret is not to fiddle, change things and add chemicals, those levels are fine, also stop feeding so much
     
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