Huge problem: dangerous chemical imbalance

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  1. Manic

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    Hey everyone,

    So it seems I've got a massive problem. I've been using tropic Marin bio calcium which is a balanced alk, calcium and magnesium supplement. When I fist started the tank my calcium was too high (500ppm), this was all down to the salt mix (seachem). I've been keeping my alk at around 8 and from previous experience with bio calcium this has kept my calcium and magnesium in the right range but now these are my readings:

    Alk: 8
    Calcium: 700
    Magnesium: 1800
    Salinity: 1.026

    What should I do to drop my calcium and magnesium without dropping my alk?

    Are these readings even possible?
     
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  3. dallasg

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    hey!
    i have the same issue from using seachem salt, its only dropped 100ppm in 4 months and put it down to the salt, so i am thinking of changing salt
    i know @Adee uses the same salt and i dont think he has any issues
     
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    Have you guys tried mixing a new batch of salt mix and testing?
    If yes then what reading did u get?
     
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    Testing before adding to tank but couple of hours after mixing
     
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    Dropping the salinity will help with the overall levels also. The higher the salinity is mixed, the higher the rest is also mixed. It may help a little, but maybe you have been using a bad batch of salt, that also happens
     
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    Bud what is the pH?
    and what was the temp?

    what test kits are you using?
     
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    Temperature is 26.

    Using all salifert test kits, all new.

    Haven't measured the pH.
     
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    the problem i have with those figures is the Alkalinity is really low for a calcium of 700.
    Retest it with another make of tests before you change anything
     
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    I am of the OPINION that the high magnesium is allowing calcium to be so high without precipitating even though kh is low?
     
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    I'm also using the Seachem salt. I had to dose some Mag (also seachem) to get the level to 1350. My readings are:

    dKH: 8.3
    Ca: 550
    Mag: 1350
    Salinity: 1.025
    Temp: 24 (avg)

    I use Brightwell 2 Part A and B but have only dosed the B (Alk) due to the high Ca.
    What is the possible issues of having too high Ca?
     
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    I'll try test it with another test kit but I am pretty certain the readings are right.
     
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    Diferent suppliers have told me that during the importing o the salts the high heat in the containers "sepperate" the ellements and to get a correct level reading , the whole batch of salt should be mixed at once or the dry salt should be mixed well , then part of it can be mixed at a time...

    David
     
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    salt is made to be mixed in its entirity
     
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    Precipitation, ph dropping ,spses bleaching, inability to get kh up. Lpses and zoas sulking . all imo
     
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    Ps tsippi all your perams are cool
     
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    All my stuff looks perfect. clams, zoa's, GBTA, rics, hammer coral and fish. Might be the test kits.
     
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    Thanks! You had me worried there for a sec;)
     
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    Besides testing my water with another test kit is there anything else I could do. Lets say my test kits are right (Which I assume they are) what should I do?
     
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    If there are not negative effects you could just leave it and let the levels naturally drop, other than that I think the only thing you can do is a water change. Why not mix a little Roa and salt to 1.025 and then test the alk, ca and mg. If it still gives the same reading, mix the bucket of salt well and try again. If its still the same then maybe you can return the salt?
     
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    Will try that but I'm sure it is gonna give me readings close to the following:

    kH: 11
    Calcium: 500

    This is what my tank started on and that was all from the seachem salt.
     
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