how to make fire

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  1. SteveZi

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    Can anybody please tell me how the hell those survival guys on tv can make a fire by rubbing sticks together...
    I wanted to do this, so I planned it all and made me a little bow, I cut a notch exactly as described by various pros.
    I got my tinder all ready.
    The amount of smoke I made was only surpassed by the amount of sweat on my red face.
    end result = nothing. just smoke.
    since then, I've been thinking that there may be a slimmm chance that I might have used wood that could be treated NOT to burn...

    Don't laugh though - this is not as easy as they make it look.
    I will keep on trying.
    If there is a fire making fundi out there, please share with me the secrets of getting it right!

    ps. if this thread receives zero replies I will understand completely
     
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  3. Dlaria

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    Are you putting some fine tinder of some sort with it?
    I think the split plank/rub with stick works better.
     
  4. Dlaria

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    Here's the Apache way... works better if you split the board you're rubbing the stick against. Split it about 1/3 the way down, and tuck some tinder in. By splitting it that way, you get airflow into the tinder as you rub.


     
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    This one has better tips for using the bow method.
     
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    Your board must be soft wood
     
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    Jeez.... 2 pieces of wood you say?? I've been doing it wrong all of these years. I thought you rub 2 girl guides together?!? Things do get hot though..:biggrin:
     
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    Lion matches 1 strike and it burns
     
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    go buy yourself one of Bear Gills flint stix and a small piece of hessian bag. it worked for me
     
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    hehe , yes yes i know how to use the bic, the match, even the girl guides.
    I want to get that bow method down.
    Thanks for the videos Dlaria.
     
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    Bamboo can create fire just by rubbing it.
     
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    Thanks - have you successfully done this?
     
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    I've done this a couple of times (for my own amusement and to win a bet a long time ago). The only secret is to us a hard wood rubbing stick (think pestle) and a soft wood base (mortar). The rest is all about LOTS of sweat....
     
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    that's the part they edit out on the tv programs...
    did you see a little piece starting to glow, or how do you know when's the right time to add tinder and start blowing? I get lots of smoke and black powder but nothing glows - will try the hard vs soft like you mention.
     
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    It's all about generating as much heat as possible from friction, so do not "give it some air" as this lets cooler air into the friction site, which sets you back a good few minutes each time. It's a bit of a thumb suck as to when to add the tinder and blow. AFAIKR, no less than after 20 mins SOLID RUBBING!
     
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    shot!
     
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    Good thing the PE guys have thick calouses on their hands.... this helps...
     
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    I have done this before. not for survival but to see if I could.

    You need a good dry hardwood drill, a softer wood for the base then start by getting a hole going in the bottom. once the hole is there cut a 30 degree notch from the side of the base to the middle of the hole. put your tinder ball under the base notch and when you are ready to drill you must just add a couple of grains of sand...this will help get things going a bit faster....


    after some time you will see the notch has filled with a glowing ember...you then lift the base and drill away and fold the tinder around the ember and blow like hell.


    the first time I used cotton wool as tinder. it works but you just about die of smoke inhalation
     
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    Just stick the piece of wood in the drilling machine, high speed, something gotta happen....;)
     
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    thanks dude.
    when i tried, i did it almost exactly like you describe, but instead of getting a glowing ember in my notch, I only got black powder - in fact the whole thing filled up with black powder. I drilled some deep holes!
    I used driftwood (very dry), but I think the wood may have been treated.
    Will give it another shot soon with different wood.
     
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