How can we grow this hobby in SA?

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  1. dallasg

    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    So how can we as reefers grow this hobby? how do we get more involved?
    how many "casual" reefers are there here in SA that arent part of MASA?

    yes most of us here are addicts, but what about those that just want to own the tanks and not live around them...
     
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  3. Fuzzy

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    dallasg Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    yes, forums come across as to judgmental, personal attacks are way to common
     
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    Yes!! Interesting topic.

    I love marine tanks and as we all know if you first had one your hooked! I'm Trying to get my friends into marine tanks cause most of them have planted tanks.
    But the only response I always get from them its to expensive!

    I don't think its that an Expensive hobby! Sure it costs more than your normal Aquarium. But you get more pleasure out of it!

    I think people must be made aware of the costs involved. And starting up the correct way from the start will also minimize cost!
     
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    The ban hammer swings to easily, it discourages a lot of people from even bothering to participate anymore.
     
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    :iagree::stupid::iagree::stupid::iagree::stupid::iagree::stupid::iagree:
     
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    dallasg Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    well put Christo, i would say its on par with planted tanks, FW livestock is cheaper but hardware the same....
     
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    dallasg Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    well if you get banned its obviously not constructive input...
     
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    Will rather keep quite...
     
  11. Bubbles22

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    Easiest way - wait for "Finding Dorry" to hit the cinemas on the 25th November 2015 - then everyone will have to get their kids a regal tang and put it in a nano tank.
     
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    It will grow if we all stick to factual and experiential reefkeeping and leave personalities out of things. Answer questions directly and move away from the pile on mentality if there is a difference of opinion
     
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    Educate, Simplify, invite others to see your own tank. A forum only provides one facet to the hobby.
     
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    Ask the chemist to start stocking PATIENCE pills.
    Lack of that is killing of a lot of fish, setups, ambitions.

    It has been mentioned so many times, "Take things slowly"
    And over and over we see guys ignoring that.
    Anything somewhat out of normal, and guys buys and chuck in some chemical to control it. Never stops and sit back, thinking why something is happening. Finding the root cause. Everything should happen today. Fixed today.

    Its like training your dog. It does not happen in one day. It takes time, repetitive actions, patience, picking up the poo from the carpet again before the dog is trained. OK, some dogs learn faster than others. Same with a tank, some are quicker matured than others, but still takes time.

    Now, how can we spread that basic message?
     
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    Learn? We all dont know everything.
     
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    The measure twice cut once principle?
     
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    dallasg Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    no we dont, we know what we do to keep things going, educate from the grass roots level, to use existing examples, each state in the USA has local clubs that form part of what we know as Reef Central, these clubs run weekly workshops, do school visits etc to get things promoted, i know our hobby seems small but if we tried something like that i think it could work. i had the pleasure of attending a few Manhattan Reef Club meeting in NYC and was great, surprisingly they are their own community within a larger RC, local help to home is always better
     
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    try to get more new guys to attend the local reef meetings.
     
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    i see the problem as the world we live in today is everything about convenience - fast paced and easy. Many people want a reef tank but do not want the responsibility that comes with it. Also, we sometimes want the best but at the same time, want to also spend the least - makes no sense but its human nature.

    then you get some LFS that will sell things that people really do not need - and you guys know the story with the bad advice and livestock.

    another thing is that we need to change our mind set a bit. Like you can keep coral (type dependent), fish (size dependent) and inverts in a nano tank with CFL's and a HOB - (see nano-reef.com) But we mainly seem to advise on going big with skimmers and so on.

    This hobby, like most, is not for everybody, but many may want to try it. It is during this trying phase that we need to be nurturing. We also need to not only keep them here on MASA but also show them about RC, nano-reef, etc to name a few and realise that the more open we are, the more people will enjoy and stay.

    my ramblings for the morning
     
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    Need to break the stigma that marines is too expensive. As with all hobbies you don't have to go straight for top of the range stuff.
    It happens at the shops and unfortunately on forums as well, where most equipment advice normally contained " you need to upgrade" " that skimmer is too small" " your flow pimps are controllable so won't be good enough " etc etc. Sometimes it seems like this hobby is more about showing off who has the most expensive and newest equipment, instead of actually keeping marines.
     
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    i couldnt agree more...and even though im in the industy,and selling something more expensive is better for business,i still always tell guys to keep things simple..do and use what works and forget about keeping up with the joneses...
     
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