Hidden Overflow Help

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  1. Gareth0508

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    Howsit Guys. I have built my tank and sump and my overflow box. I am doing a bean animal with an external overflow. The overflow chamber is centred on the back glass and drops 200mm from the top.

    I don't have a picture with me at the moment but this is an example of what it looks like except it does not extend to the bottom of the tank.
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    Further along, in the thread from the above photo, you can see how he has hidden the overflow:
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    Can someone help me figure out a way to hide the overflow box as above. I have not yet glued it to the tank as yet. I don't think painting the back glass is an option as you will be siliconing the overflow box to the paint? What are my options?
     
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    why not use black abs sheeting whith black slilicone?
     
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    That was an option i was leaning toward, except with a Royal blue sheeting. My only concern though is the cleaning. Its more prone to scratches. It is still an option though. Just making sure its not my only one.
     
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    Use a sheet of black or blue abs/ pvc/perpex on the inside of the tank with overflow teeth cut into it, or u can make a clip on one like in you pic.
     
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    3 pieces black ABS sheeting, mounted externally, OK, central one will be in the overflow box. And black silicone.
     
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    That’s a bean animal?
    We used to make that sort of pre filter in the late 70s,so they call it a bean animal, interesting.
    An on tank prefilter is far better for many reasons.
    How was the over flow glass cut done, I always do a scallop cut to the glass to get a weir going or just drill some holes.
    Another thing I used to do way back, that may be of some help was to hook corals and live rock onto the aquariums wall to hide the rear of the aquarium and to save space.
    I did this up to show the guys.
    http://southeastqueenslandm.aforumfree.com/t1812-attaching-corals-to-aquarium-glass
     
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    Thanks Guys. I do prefer the blue over the black, so looks like I'm going to buy some ABS for the inside. I'll just have to be careful when cleaning and scaping.
     
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    Hi pkc, this is actually a bean animal overflow:
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    My overflow chamber will house this as displayed in the initial pictures.
     
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    Cool, the threaded parts are they the water height decider?Oh I see the other ends are for silencing and they are in the water or are they for shutting one or two down by turning them down?.
    The corals on the glass thing.
    That was a few months back and I have done two more since then as you can see, it helps with space for me, my tanks are only 17inches from front to back.
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    This is what it actually looks like.
    [​IMG]You can find more info here:
    BeanAnimal's Bar and Grill - Silent and Fail-Safe Overflow System

    Your tank is looking good by the way!
     
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    Thanks mate, the last one that the cyclone that came along near Auz day,the 28th of January wiped out my other one of mainly inverts and it was far nicer.
    If the power stays on, everything is easy with this hobby.
    Are you going to put in small micron prefiltering material before the exit pipes that you can clean regularly?
     
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    With your design, you could glue in some plastic moulding in a U shape to suit the width of egg crate, glue it close to the rear of your tank in that over flow box to act as a sliding track, like a sliding window. Then cut egg crate sized to suit that sliding track and make a cover or Dacron to fit over it and slide it in and out when you want to clean it.
     
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    Sorry to hear about your wipeout. I am planning on adding filter socks below each return pipe that will be replaced 2/3 times a week.
     
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    If you can clean pre filters each day, unless you are away of course,your sps will attain far better success and you will have less cyano and hair algae.
    With your design, you could glue in some plastic moulding in a U shape to suit the width of egg crate, glue it close to the rear of your tank in that over flow box to act as a sliding track, like a sliding window. Then cut egg crate sized to suit that sliding track and make a cover of Dacron, filter wool to fit over it and slide it in and out when you want to clean it.
    Have a look if you like, there may be a point or two in this that can help explain.
    http://southeastqueenslandm.aforumfree.com/t1898-pre-filter-building-instructions-for-reef-aquariums
     
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    I made up my dacron filter barriers over two years ago and I am still using them.
    My wife puts them in the washing machine after they get to hard to clean under the hose while I use spares.
    The tubes at the back of the barrier pre filter wall of Dacron are my settling pre filters, they get cleaned each ten days or so.
    They keep the external bio filter clean!
     
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    Marco has the 3/8" NPT John Quest fitting if you looking for one, Just pm'd him for one just now.
     
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    Thanks for all the helpful info on your forum, definitly a good read.
     
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    Thanks Hammerhead. I will give Marco a visit. I prefer that fitting!
     
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    If your overflow is as high as the one in the pic id suggest raising the pipes a bit higher as the waterfall noise will be limited.


    I see the box is only 200mm deep then no wories.
     
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    The water level in the overflow box is going to be roughly 150mm from the bottom, pending on the plumbing.

    I will post pictures on Monday of the overflow box and semi-completed bean animal.

    This is going to be a silent overflow! I hope!
     
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