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  1. Boklam

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    Hi fellow mariners!

    I`m totally new to this very exciting and interesting hobby.

    We are looking to convert our freshwater tank into a marine tank and not really sure where to start :-(

    Also very difficult to find a "short list" of what to get, the use of it etc....
    ALso the costs involved...long term, is it really worth it..?

    Would appreciate your well experienced inputs;)
     
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  3. Damen

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    :1::welcome6::welcome6:

    dude its total;ly worth it and you will love it. best place to start is right here with all the questions
     
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  5. Boklam

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    Advise please...

    Okay!:)

    We have a 1.8 x 1.2 freshwater tank with all the normal goodies inside.

    What do we need to get to convert it to a marine tank?
    I`ve heard of a skimmer...of course a pump and and...

    Who can give me a short "shopping" list please?
    And also the functionality of each item...
     
  6. durleo

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    You will probably want to convert the tank with an overflow and have a separate sump underneath to house the skimmer and return pump and heater. You will need flow pumps in the display tank to help distribute food to corals and oxygenate water. Go to see either Nathan from TSR or Jungle Aquatics. They will help you plan your setup. Buy the best skimmer you can afford and you can get some pretty good deals in the "for sale " section
     
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    Welcome Boklam
     
  8. Boklam

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    Thanks!

    I will go and check it out asap...
     
  9. Boklam

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    thanks Omlette :)
     
  10. seank

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    Welcome Boklam- I used to know a Boklam from Mpumalanga in the good old days, we used to have a bar brawl or three then, suppose it is not you...lol

    First and foremost, do some reading to find out what you would like to have in the tank.... Most newbies start with the usual "Nemo" and "Dorry".. If you want to add Corals, I would suggest to start with soft Coral only tank, they "Sway" in the water column and looks really nice. You also get nice colors... They much hardier than LPS and Sps and you will have less problems..

    Ok, NOW, Equipment etc needed... My 2cents would be to start with the basic "Old School" for you to learn the methology and chemistry of a reeftank... Forget about all the dosing pumps, computers etc for now (Rather save up and when you know a bit more about reefkeeping, you will have enough money to buy the proper, superior equipment)

    YOu need to get your tank drilled for an overflow to your filter tank (Sump).
    You need to create a type of overflow- either inside your tank or some use a syphon method (not effective as to my experience).
    A good, low wattage, high headflow pump to return your water from your filter tank to your display tank.
    Couple of 25mm Pvc pipes and 90 degree elbow fittings and Pvc weld glue to glue all the pipework together.
    Some people even add Ball valves to restrict flow.
    I would definitely go for a good skimmer, you get the external type as well as the internal ones.....
    Make sure your lights are adequate, especially if you gonna add coral. Good T5 Lights (a mixture of white, Blue and actinic is a good idea- white for growth, blue for growth/Coral color and actinic to bring out the colors of your efflorescent coral)

    Then you need quality "Live rock" for your biological filtration.

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    Overflow and drilled holes inside your tank:

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    Here you can see how a basic Display tank and Sump looks like:


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    Now, let us move over to the Skimmers:

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    welcome to MASA!
    First question would be, what do you want to keep, fish only, softies, lps etc.
    Besides the skimmer, youll need to look at lighting and flow pumps.
     
  12. Boklam

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    Thanks so much SEANK....a lot of info to process but the the pics help a lot must say:)
    And by the way..I might have been in a bar brawl or two...but not in Mpumalanga:biggrin:

    Which is the best place in Gauteng to go to to buy all of this? I dont want to be ripped off you know?
    And to answer your question 459b - We want a mini ocean :) But we`ll be patient and start off small...maybe like SEANK said...some corals for now only...?
     
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    Light setups for your tank:

    There are many different ways, you can buy them as complete units, or you can make them up yourself, just make sure that your light is sufficient for growth and aesthetically pleasing to your eyes. This can also be very costly, read up on what you want and what your needs are gonna be:

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    Then we move over to your return pumps, again, you get internal or external return pumps, depends on space as well as noise etc. I prefer external as it does not disperse too much heat back into the tank, but stay at low voltage, low wattage, good quality pumps, as they are going to run 24/7. Mine has been running for 04 years (if I deduct the time the tank was dismantled) continious:

    Look for Sicce, Tunze, Red Dragon etc etc.

    Live Rock:

    Well, not much to be said. My preference is to buy dead rock as the "live rock" you buy do not have any life on it anyway, unless you buy it from a LFS who had it in a tank for a couple of weeks.. You can cure your own rock and seed it yourself:

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    Pumps for water movement inside your tank.

    There are 100's of types of pumps. Just know that you will need them. I am not going to tell you what is best or not, as everyone thinks differently as per their budget... What I can say is, buy yourself a low voltage pump or 3 or 4, connected to a "wavemaker" unit, it works much better than just a couple of high power pumps directed in different direction in your tank to create random waterflow... You will thank me for it..

    Ok, this is as basic as what I could get in conveying my answers to your questions... You need to read up on different systems and equipment as displayed above...... Good Luck, and ask questions, we all started asking questions...

    Some Display tank and filter systems setups, and yes, go for DSB (Deep sand bed) inside your sump.

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    Great post Sean. .
    @viper357 this should be a sticky
     
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  16. Boklam

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    WOW!! thanks a mil SEANK....I can see you know your stuff :thumbup:....been around the tank a couple of times I assume...LOL

    Chats later again...have to go do some reading now;)
     
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    Thanks Keith, nice to be on holiday, too much time on my hands, and it is raining outside.

    No problem
     
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    We are all still here ;)

    Never ever ask that question, and always throw away your pet shop till slips :whistling:
     
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    @ SEANK

    :eek: I thought so....

    I already threw away all the till slips when I bought my goodies for my Leopard Gecko :lol:
     
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    Welcome Boklam. :)

    @seank - Excellent info there, I love it when you're bored. :p Those posts combined would go down very well in our Beginners category in our Articles section ;) ;) ;) Articles :biggrin:

    Thanks NJ.
     
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    Thanks Viper :)

    And I agree...it`s easy to read & understand...so post away I say :thumbup:
     
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