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  1. Timbaumann

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    Hi everyone,

    I have had a freshwater aquarium for almost 4 Years and its getting a bit boring, so now I'm gonna try a marine aquarium.
    I already sold all my aquariums and am ready to buy all the necessary equiptment!!
    But there is one small problem, I don't know wich size aquarium would be best for a marine aquarium beginner like me!!! Please give me some sudgestions! Thanks :biggrin:
     
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  3. butcherman

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  4. Timbaumann

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    Very nice tank

    wow... your tank really looks great, especially the live rock setup!! I just hope that mine will also look that good when I have one!!! :biggrin:
    But what size tank should I get?
     
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    Welcome! A nice beginner size is a 4ft display tank with a sump but the bigger the better and more forgiving! :) .. Have a look on the for sale threads and you can score!
     
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    thanks

    I guess I'll go search for a nice, big tank!!! :)
     
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    Hey Tim see you joined.Will talk to you tomorrow in school about tank size etc.
     
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    Welcome to MASA, glad you joined us. You might find some of the answers you will need on the link below - starting a marine tank. Where are you from? Maybe we can point you towards one of the sponsors if we know where you're at.
     
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    Lol. @Tobes hes from Namibia. Swakopmund to be precise. Were in the same school.
     
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    O ok, so no sponsors near you then :(
     
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    hi tim, welcome to masa:) i went through a similar process of not knowing what to buy when i first started out and I sumarised it in this post, perhaps it can help you...

    A summary of a beginnners sharp learning curve
    I was talking to Warr last night and he suggested I write a thread on the enjoyment one can get from cycling ones tank.

    I re-read some of the old posts I did a while ago. Just to see where my understandings had got to from when I started, kind of see if I could answer the same questions I asked when I started. The learning curve has been vertical. Not rapid just simply straight up and six weeks in there is no slowing down, just a change in topics. And I would say the I was and am relatively experienced in the management of recalculating systems, be it fresh water tanks, breeding rare tropical fresh water fish or ponds and huge wetland systems.

    In very brief summary of the primary things I asked to begin and what I was generally told.
    • New system or old? Answer go new as its then “your build” and you get what you want, you learn on the way and you are not in inheriting other peoples mistakes. I agree 80% there, I think perhaps getting an old system would have got me into the husbandry aspects quicker (the water changes, water quality, cleaning skimmers etc etc) and I would have a show piece in my house already. Also I would not have to cycle for 6 weeks. But that counts for 20% all of which I will catch up soon. In short definitely get a new tank for yourself
    • Bigger is better??? This was a HUGE question for me. Yes I want size, I wanted the forgiveness on my own mistakes which I knew I will make. Note WILL make as they are still coming and always will be, don’t fool yourself that research will save u from these! I subscribe fully to the saying “pollution solution through dilution.” The principles are sound and make sense to me. But bigger costs. And costs LOTS. Everyone says Marines are expensive, everyone tries to save costs. I set a budget and blew it on the tank and skimmer alone! Size counts, go as big as u can to start, go smaller when u know what’s going on. I would hate to start on a Nano and have to be so precise without having the experience.
    • Second hand or new equipment? This has HUGE cost implications and big risk factors. I was very lucky. Very very lucky and I will always be in MASA”S dept for having members like “Likesfish” and in him I found honest good quality second hand equipment, but best of all honesty. I state again I was lucky. I placed myself in his hands and said this is my budget what can we do. Also Likesfish had good quality equipment, and fairly new. If it was not quality equipment or had been over a few years old I would rather have gone new, even at double the cost. Also asking others ‘what do think of the cost of this for that” type questions on a open public display is invaluable. If you are starting and not certain (as in 1000%) know what u want and are getting…..ASK!
    • A Little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing! Ok so I have a tank, I have the basic equipment and I even managed to get the tank level. I knew what I want to achieve with respect to showing the tank etc and was now ready to full it. I read about RO, TDS, NSW and so on. Read about it but didn’t understand it. You never do until you experience it. Then information is converted by experience into knowledge. That step is KEY. I got second had live rock from a guy breaking down. I waited for that. Waited to find a BIG system, heavy stocking density. With lots of people wanting the Live Stock. Why look for a system like that? It showed an experienced reefer. It showed a guy who cared. And I wanted that. Because if his system is good, his LR is BETTER. Good biological filtration is key to good water parameters. And yes I am stressing that there should be thought around these things. I got the LR and dropped it into my tank, sat back and stopped thinking. I knew roughly what should happen and I didn’t pay careful close attention to settling it down. I didn’t even work out which side of the LR should be up or down and so on. A little bit of knowledge lead me to trouble. Its not a little you need its LOTS. Its not information that counts, its your knowledge!
    • I got smacked! I went away leaving an immature system unattended. SO many people say don’t. Tap water was used for top up and by the time I came back I could not see into the tank. Algae bloomed from hell! But it taught me a very good lesson. If you make mistakes nature WILL show you. If you do things right nature WILL show you. Read your tank! Look at the parameters, look at the inhabitants, look at the system. The aesthetics pf how it looks etc is only important from a human vanity aspect. Its what is INSIDE that counts. I was almost depressed at the state of my tank. I really was. A lot of work and effort has gone into it and 4weeks later I am hitting problems people say take YEARS to fix. But onto forums, follow advice and DO IT! So many people know they should do water changes. So many people know they have to acclimatize, yet so often we hear of things murdered due to human impatient! That’s a waist of life, and that is sacrilege.
    • this is voluntary, it should be fun! This is the one aspect I have battled with a little, especially when I hit algae so hard. But then I sat back, looked at my tank and realized that there are some many millions of things of interest in it. Be it from a bristle worm suddenly popping out, or the fact that I try count copepods to see the state of the living community. 4 weeks of having LR in my system and I play a nightly game of finding a new living organism that wasn’t there the day before. Or more to the point WAS there, I just missed it. It keeps my interest, increases the fun and really gives me great satisfaction. Who said cycling was no fun???? I even found a “slug like” fella last night1 And yes that got me excited. If the little guys can hold so much fun, I cant wait to get a school of 9 hippo tangsJ

     
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    Hi, welcome to MASA, marine will be a whole lot more fun!! Don't start too big, but try to buy modular equipment, then if you go bigger you can just add more to the exisiting equipment, also, if you can, go for the best equipment you can afford, it will save you a whole lot of trouble. You can go to www.tunze.com to check some equipment out. Good luck, cheers Anita
     
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    Hey and welcome to MASA!
     
  18. Timbaumann

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    I am really having huge doubts about getting a marine tank because the costs are just toooo big!!! I dont think I can buy all the necessary stuff anymore and if I buy some crapy equiptment for cheap then most fish might probably die and I'd rather have no tank than a shity tank!!!! But maby I can still find some geat second-hand stuff!!!
     
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    take your time tim, watch the for sales section and plan. ive brought many tanks off masa and have always been happy, ive even been given a few. Go slowly you will get there :)
     
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    :)

    Thats good advice, but I still have one problem. I live in Namibia not SA!! But even here some people probably sell some good tanks at auktions or put adds in the newspaper!!! And I even made 400 dollars today so I think I'm getting there, slowly!!! :thumbup:
     
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