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  1. NaadelKooker

    NaadelKooker

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    Hey peeps

    I'm getting all my ducks in a row and doing some costing and research on an fish only tank with some life rock.

    I'm aiming at 1200x600x600 as an tank size but i'm not sure on the frame material sizes to use in making an base for the tank to sit on if any1 can give an idea on what to use?


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    Hi and welcome to MASA. There is some great info for you on starting a marine tank in my signature.
    32mm square tubing will be fine, just galvanize or powder coat the stand to protect it from rusting.
     
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    Is that frame 50mm square tubing? If yes, that will be a super strong frame. No need for the central braces / legs.

    o, and welcome. :)
     
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    Hi hi welcome dude.:peroni: :welcometomasa2:
    Make sure to use the thicker one i think its the 2.6mm thick one its stronger and welds esier.
    If your using the desighn in post #1 32mm square tubing should be fine.
    I agree with Tobes about the powdercoating, there are other options but feuw work.
     
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    Hi hi welcome dude.:peroni: :welcometomasa2:
    Make sure to use the thicker one i think its the 2.6mm thick one its stronger and welds esier.
    If your using the desighn in post #1 32mm square tubing should be fine.
    I agree with Tobes about the powdercoating, there are other options but feuw work.
     
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    NaadelKooker Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the advise i dono much but thats why i'm here ! thanks peeps!
     
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    Welcome to Masa
    Another PE boytjie wohoo !!
     
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    NaadelKooker Thread Starter

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    Thanks Lycan

    Actual an PE NORTH boytjie (Despatch) lol

    I'm still getting prices but things are expensive HOLY CRAPP!!!

    I'm still puzzled withe the Deep Sand Bed samp story does the glass that divide the compartments need to be at an certain height and spaced away from each other?

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    NaadelKooker Thread Starter

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    Hey MASA peeps!

    I finally got an final idea on how my first FOWLR tank should look like but would appreciate some input.
    I sat last night from 6 till about 11 o'clock figuring all this out and trying to put it to paper!
    I'm maybe aiming to go to an 1.5m tank.....

    My price hunt has been good so far and the wife has not yet seen the budget lol.(Hopefully she wont see it soon !!!)

    I done some research on the DSB and draw it up with some heights but would appreciate some input for i'm not 100% sure that i'm going about this the right way.

    If some1 can advise me that what i have done is OK or not and what return pump is needed for an good flow over the DSB.
     
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    Hi Peeps

    Could some 1 tell me the cover at the top i'm wanting to make out of 16mm chipboard (Royal Mohogany) but would it not be to heavy for the glass?

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    I used solid cherry and its fine. Not sure about chipboard.

    My previous tank had superwood. I would use superwood instead of chipboard.
     
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    Was your cover closed like this 1?


    If so :thumbup:
     
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    the glass between the compartments needs to be higher so that you have a zone above the dsb where you can acclimatise new fish or use as a refugium to grow macro algae and pods which you can feed to your fish now and then,also growing macro algae helps reduce phosphates and nitrates....other than that it looks good.
     
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    k but how high should I go don't wana struggle to get to the skimmer ! at the moment i'm looking at having an frame that is about 900mm high so if i push the dividing glass up do i need to lift the hole sump higher(450mm make higher)?
     
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    depends what skimmer you getting? check with anyone who has the type of skimmer you are going for.

    As for the dividing glass well the top of the dividing glass can be just 2-3cm lower than the height of the sump without any real problems.so the first can be 2-3cm and the second 1 cm lower.remember if you make them high then your return chamber can hold alot of volume when you shut the return pump of and the water back flows into the sump,without mixing into the dsb/refugium or disturbing it too much
     
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    NaadelKooker Thread Starter

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    but what skimmer and return pump would you recommend that would give me an good flow over the DSB?
     
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    What size tank exactly? a return pump of 2500lt/hour is usually sufficeint as long as you dont have more than 3 -4 elbows on the return line as more elbows slow down the flow too much.
     
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    1500x600x600 and i9 want to split up the return into 2 feeds to the tank 1 in each corner in the front.
     
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    Then you should go for a bigger return but not bigger than 4000 liters or the flow might be too fast over your dsb and the sand may get kicked up.

    a ts2 or via aqua sk388 or a bubble magnus NAC7 or any equivalent skimmer will work for a mixed reef type of tank...if you keeping sps only then go for bigger.
     
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