Urgent help needed Help something eating my fish

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  1. nepellew

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    Hey guys recently ive noticed that there is some infection or what i have no idear could any one shead some light on this please i did put up a post about the black spots on my two clowns they are still doing fine so far from every one told me they will live through it nothing serious but i need help to detrmine what the hell is eating my one clown from the bum

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    Crabs or mantis shrimp!

    What LS do you have?
    Did you get any new LR recently?
     
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    ohk well i have 2 cleaner shrimp one hermit crab and 2 clowns oh and goby
     
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    Howzit

    Is it on the bottom rear fin or the body ?
     
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    there is a certain fungal pathogen that causes a disease called red spot disease - more common in freshwater and brackish.
    symptoms include red spots that can turn to ulcers.
    what is the salinity of your water?
     
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    Hey williet its not the fin its the body , and um Stevezi ok um the salinity is 1.300 its a bit high but im slowly reducing it by adding ro water
     
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    That actually might be causing the problem. the salinity should never be above 1.026 with fish in it. Corals might even have a bit of a strain too if its that high. If i were you take about 10 liters out and put that amount back in with RO water. That could possibly help a bit.
     
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    if you change any of the physical parameters of your water, do it very gradually.
    is the fish eating? has it changed to a darker color and show bahavioural changes like keeping to itself?
     
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    You can lower salinity quite fast, you have to raise it very slowly however!

    I had a look in my books and all that I could find was:

    "Uronemosis: Early sign of infection is skin discoloration, leading to ulceration; may be confused with bacterial disease at this stage. Skin sloughs and may also become pitted, distinguishing this from Brooklynellosis.

    Treatment: Rapidly fatal if internal organs, such as the kidneys, are affected. Treat the fish in a freshwater bath, or in a medicated bath containing a combination of formalin and malachite green treatments."

    My clowns also developed black spots over time, but they were 6 years old...
     
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    Ok will do the water change um and ok Louis scheepers um in bathing haw do you mean a quick dip or put him in a separate tank and let him swim in the RO water for a few minutes
     
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    That is the quote from one of my books.

    The experts will be able to tell you how long the dip should last etc. A freshwater dip means taking the fish and putting it in RO water (the PH and temp should be the same as your tank) for a couple of minutes.

    On the medicated bath I don't know how much formalin to add. I always use the stuff you can buy at the LFS, and follow the instructions.
     
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    Did the water change help any?
     
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    Well it brought the salinity down i also did the fresh water bath in Ro and anti bacterial stuff so will see how he is in the morning
     
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    Okay good. Best of luck to you!
     
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    @nepellew

    What is your salinity sitting at now? This can put major strain on a fish with such a high salinity.

    Where is Glenmore? Is it in durban ?
    Also what bactericide are you using ?
    I prefer Waterlife's Myxazin P. I have used it for rot with Great results. (Saved a Pygmy angel with it !)

    @Louis

    Some guys push it to 5min. I Normally do 4 mins max. I heard one guy doing it for 15min - would not recommend.

    Formalin is a carcinogenic as it causes cancer in humans. I am personally not a very big fan of FW dips. I only do it if things look REALLY bad.

    Only done it once.

    Hope this helps !
     
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    Hey williet yup in durbs glenmore near umbilo and i am using that water life myxazin , and any way you could maby pop in if your not to far pm me
     
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    I'll inbox you!
     
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    Probably a fungus

    Hey man from what you describe it is most likely fungus. If it was fresh water I would say saprolegnia but these are rare in marine setups. Your fish are "old" and have undergone stress too big prerequisites for fungal growth. Personal opinion would be to use Malachite green, most widely used antifungal in fish, in a quarantine tank. Just make sure with some of the mods that it is safe for clowns. Formaldehyde should not be used as the fish appears to have an open wound which would make it toxic to the fish! NB if you do use malachite green quarantine your fish, MG it is very toxic to invertebrates! Doses should be strictly adhered to and the problem should resolve quickly. Just my 2 cents worth from my class exotics notes.
     
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