help me in overflow and sump desgin

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    My new tank setup is 150*60*60 cm and I going to make sump for it and I wanna make the holes in the back side for the over flow box I wanna know the dimension for the holes and the over flow box and also the height of the holes for the tank bottom and the dimension of the over flow box the sump will be 100*28*38 107L please help me Cuz the glass in the work shop and the guy is waiting me guys please help with picture Cruz this is my first time to setup tank
     
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    First get your fittings before cutting the holes.

    That is the bulkhead, or tank connectors.
     
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    as Riaan just advised I was going to ask what size piping you intend using?
     
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    Is bulkhead I decide to go with external overflow box with beananimal overflow and I am going to make the standpipes 1 inch and the overflow box will be 100cm length and 15cm width and 20cm height but the inlet to the overflow box from the tank what it should be three holes or I cut in the top of the glass like 3 inches or what is the good inlet design it should be
     
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    Guys I have small problem the glass work shop the maximum hole diameter that he can drill is 30 km and my fitting require 33mm hole !!! I wish this can be solved soon he told me he can try to open it
     
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    Is there no other glass company around?
     
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    Drill a hole in a off cut of glass, and then try and insert your bulkhead there first if a plan can't be made then change your plumbing to suit your hole.
    You could try grinding the thread off the bulkhead, and then glue it into place this would give you a mill or two to play with.
    Hope you come right bud
     
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    Very nice idea because its hard to find this size of cutting,,, thanx its 30mm without the thread
     
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    Wholy crap,,,,How big is your tank if the hole is 30km????????:tt2:
     
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    Ocean tank at my home
     
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    Some image for the solution I thread pipe and two nuts maybe help waiting your opinion
     
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    Image for overflow holes
     
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    Image for overflow holes
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    Image for pump return hole
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    Image for tank under construction
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    Image for stand under construction
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    Image for stand under construction
     
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    That's one he'll of a big overflow box it's almost as if it's another sump,
    Why the wheels on the stand?
     
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    The wheels in stand if I wanna change the place of the tank that's all and I will support the stand in another support not the wheels and when I wanna use the wheels I will remove the support for the overflow box I duno why it comes like that looool I thought about more access if fish go in but I am fearing about the glue of box for the tank wall fear so much about that not more !!!!!
     
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    Overflow box dimension 90*20*20
     
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    That is one big overflow box and it will put a lot of stress on the back panel, pulling it backward. Need to be sure you have enough bracing to support it. Else you will end up with a cracked back panel.

    I think its better to remove that overflow box, and make a new, much smaller version.

    And do not use those copper nuts where it will be exposed to seawater. Copper is bad for certain shrimps and hermits.

    That stand needs a lot of extra trusses. Triangular support in the corners to prevent it from swaying. Total water volume for display is about 540L. add that to the weight of the glass, rocks, sump, equipment and it is not something you would push around on wheels. Please be sure that the wheels are at least capable to carry 300Kg each. More is better. I think everything will be close to 1000Kg, and I will not push that around. Rather drain the system at least 50% before doing that.

    In the pictures I cannot make out how exactly will the water enter the overflow box. Is the back panel cut out lower in the middle?
     
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    I will brace the hole edges Of the tank with aluminum 1" angel that will stick to the glass with pure
    Silicon and a small angel 2" under the overflow box like Chair carrying the box adhere to the glass
    With sillicon

    Regarding the extra trusses of stand that's I am gonna add ,.... Wheels iam gonna make another
    Support with elongation arm that can be more high than wheel and carry the system and when I wanna
    Move the system after draining water I can make it short and move it at the wheels


    Regarding how the water will enter the overflow box I have made cut off in the back panel with dimension of 90*6 cm so 6 cm deep cut from the rim and the pump return will be 7cm from the rim of the back panel glass
     
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