Hello There Everyone - I urgently need help

Discussion in 'New Members' started by Empilweni, 13 Jan 2009.

  1. Empilweni

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    Hi Everyone
    So impressed with the site and the friendly members!
    My boss just installed a new marine tank.
    The supplier took us for a massive ride and we are strugling to get the tank going again after all fish has died.(Due to supplier leaving the heater on top setting 35 Degrees! then charging us thousands for a chiller unit!)
    We know NOTHING about marine aquariums.
    Your advice and assistance would be greatly appretiated.
    I have added some pictures of our tank.
    My boss has spend too much money on his tank and still has no joy!
    Thank you and regards
    Marius
     
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  3. Apollo

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    Welcome to MASA Empilweni !

    Have you posted the pic's ?

    Can't see them.
     
  4. seank

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    Welcome to Masa. Jip, not all the Lfsé's are creditible, but, what's done is done, and you need to carry on. One of the modes will give you a link as to where to read up on starting and mainting a reef tank. Just give them a couple of minutes. And good luck

    Btw, I only know of one supplier in Nelspruit- Theo. Is there more than one???

    Your pics are not showing on this thread
     
  5. Andreas

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    Hi Marius:wave2:and welcome to MASA.

    Really sorry to hear about you misfortune.The best thing would be to read up and learn as much as you can and try to get the tank going again.How big is the tank and what livestock do you currently have inside the tank?
     
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    Ok, I found your pics. Here they are:

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    How long has this tank been running Marius????
     
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    Hi and welcome!! Sorry anbout your misfortune- luckilly you're not paying for the LFS's bad advice and mistakes!! Also is it a Reeftank, a Fish only or a Fish only with liferock?
     
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    Holey moley... It's a forest...:whistling:
     
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    Welcome to Marine Aquariums of South Africa. Enjoy your stay here...
     
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    Welcome to MASA, sorry to hear about all the losses - so sad! Anyway, read the link that Allan posted, everything is about there you need to know.
    The sump is not set up properly. You need to remove those ceramic rings and bio-balls from there. Do it slowly over a few weeks to give the bacteria a chance to catch up. Also, that skimmer needs to be replaced, they don't perform well.
    Answer these questions for me:

    1. How long has the tank been running?
    2. How do you mix the salt?
    3. With what do you top up evapourated water?
    4. Wat are all the water parametres?
    5. Are there still any live stock in the tank?
    6. How many litres is the system? This will determin the size of the skimmer.

    :wave2:
     
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    Welcome to MASA!! Sorry to hear about the rough start.
     
  15. Empilweni

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    Thank you so much.
    We used both a local and Johannesburg supplier.
    I really dont want to put a persons reputation on the line. We maybe just had a once-off bad experience with these suppliers.
    We are actually looking for someone to (At a fee) get the tank ready and maintain it for us.
    Regards
    Marius
     
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    What is that in the Display, Cheato?!! What is the total watervolume of the system? The Jebo's is not very effecient for tanks larger than 100 liters! I would also recommend that you slowly remove the bio-material (Rings etc.) in the second chamber, remove the second glass pane and create a 12cm deep deep sand bed in the new 2nd chamber, add a light above and add a ball of cheato in this chamber above the sand bed . Also run activated carbon and Po4 remover in the last chamber of the tank. Hope this make sense!:thumbup:
     
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    And looking at the amount of space you have in the sump? not much.
    I had exactly the same sump. Designed for the technology of the nineties!

    What you can do. If you have no livestock in display tank. Put skimmer in last chamber. Remove first and second glass panes. Then this new big area, fill it up with 12-15cm of playsand. Just wash it outside first like 100 times. Put on the overflow from the DT a 90degree bend and a short pipe that must be horizontal and the top part level with the last remaining glass pane. Dril like 5 to 10 holes 10mm in it on the top part all facing up. Block off the end.

    If you have livestock, you can not just remove the ceramic rings. Then only do the first chamber into a DSB. Second can then be used in future for phosban reactor, filter wool or whatever.
    Here is mine halfway through the conversion. Balls and rings must still come out but DSB was not seeded fully yet.
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    Welcome to the forum.

    Can you take a few more photo's of the tank itself, and a bit closer as well. To be honest I think you need to completely start over, it looks quite bad. But let's see some close up pics of the tank and what is in it then we can go from there.
     
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    Or like Mtroboer suggested, make the second chamber a DSB by removing middle glass piece. But again if you have livestock, move the rings to first chamber for next 2 - 6 months. When DSB is up then per week remove like 10 - 20% rings.
     
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  21. jacquesb

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    A very WARM WELCOME to MASA, Marius/Empilweni!
    Marius - it seems that all the bases have already been covered!

    I am really sorry to hear about the loss of the life-stock, due to stupidity (not on your side!)

    OK - here's my take on things:
    Questions:
    1) did anyone tell you that you need testing kits for the water?
    = you require the following:
    a) ammonia
    b) nitrite
    c) nitrate
    d) pH
    e) salinity/SG (hydrometer)
    2) you will most likely end up with some issues, w.r.t high phosphates/nitrates if you do not remove the ceramic noodles and bio-balls (do this slowly, over a period of time - ie over a week or so)
    3) your water chemical parameters should be stable, and all paramaters HAVE to be 0 before you buy/get any more lifestock. This is called the nitrogen cycle period, and takes about 6 to 8 weeks minimum.... then the water should be correct for the addition of life stock...
    4) please start reading up on our other "New Members" forums - this WILL teach you a HUGE amount about keeping marines. This is a WONDERFUL hobby.

    Unfortunately, there are many stories like this - all because of suspect Local Fish Stores....

    Please keep your chin up - tell you boss our sincerest sorry's that he had to loose so much money.
    BUT - you have now found MASA - and we can NOW assist you in setting up the most awesome marine reef tank....

    Good luck - and don't dispair!
     
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