Heating problems

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  1. rudeboy1

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    Hi All

    I am having a bit of trouble currently with the heating in my tanks. I have a 60l sump and on top of that I have 3 x 100l tanks.

    I have been trying to get this heating problem sorted out for sometime now and im not sure what my next option should be.

    I have purchased a 300w Eheim Jager heater and it is located in the same department as my return pump.

    Now my problem is the following, my heater is not generating enough heat because my temperature is dropping to much. I currently have heater on at about 29°c-30°c and the temperature on my thermometer (little black stick on thermometer) says that it is between 23°c, 24°c and 25°c.

    Can anyone provide me with a solution please? Should i get another heater? What should i do?

    Thank you in advance.:)

     
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  3. WarrenElvis

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    Eheim Heaters are generally of high quality without any problems. Just check your black stick on thermometer as personally not a fan of them. For more accuracy get the glass thermometer. That will rule out if any errors on the stick on
     
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    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    best get an intank thermometer they are more acurate!

    this could lead to poteltial problems if the water level drops!
     
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    Ive got the strange complicated heater with red ring to select temperature and then there is a blue ring as well. Im not sure why it is not keeping the heat constant and at the right temperature.

    Which thermometer is better? Stick on? Digital? or In-tank floating one?

    I know what you mean regarding the water level but i keep my hand on the tanks all the time, i realize the risk!
     
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    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    If your return chamber runs dry or even low for that matter, your heater just might go bang
     
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    I have a auto top on my tanks but I need to rethink it as you know how things happen. Auto top up goes faulty and then boom.
     
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    anything can go wrong, i have my heater in my 1st chamber
     
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    My heater is so huge, i dont know where else i can put it. lol. I need to get another one, a smaller one.
     
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    Digital thermometers are rubbish. Try get yourself an old style stick thermometer.
     
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    Ive got a black stick on one but the readings might be off. Not sure.
     
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    you are losing heat. Are your tanks in a garage? What is the temp in the area your tanks are in?
     
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    have you had your heater calibrated? those 300w jager should easily be able to heat up a 360L system
     
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    hi there, its not the heater with a few of my clients tanks had the same problem,get you heater calibrated ,a wrong turn on those heaters could cause them to go out of calibration,if you want i can calibrate for you,another thing its better to put you heater in chamber where the water flow is of a slower movement
     
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    Yeah they are. The temperature in the garage is hot during the day and gets cold and night. I have watched videos on how to calibrate but when i need to move the red arrow to the nearest temperature it cant reach without having to move the blue ring.

    The problem is with that, is that my sumps are 90cm in length, my heater is about 50cm so its kind placed at the back of the tank.

    What other heaters are smaller but work just as well?
     
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    you can get the smaller jager heaters and run 2 of them,this year winter i had to run 3 heaters on my tank to keep temp at 26deg,the other heater to run is aquamedic ,a bit pricey as you need a aquamedic controller with it
     
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    I agree, your three tanks are probably losing heat as it travels and moves within the three display tanks... By the time it arrives back at the sump tank, it has cooled. The constant cool water entering the sump tank is then keeping the heater on. (assuming it is correctly calibrated:p).
     
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    What should i do. The top tanks sits at about 8 feet in the air so it looks like by the time it gets to the top it is cooling down rapidly. What should i do to keep the temperature constant?

    My temperature is now round about 23 - 24 degrees celsius. Not good enough but my heater is heating at about 32 degrees celcius and it is always on.

    Should i maybe put a heater in the top tank to ensure that the tanks are being heated on both sides or should i add another 1 or 2 heaters into my sump?
     
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    What return pump you using?
    got a picture of your entire setup or a basic diagram?
     
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    rudeboy1 Thread Starter

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    Im using the Lifetech 4660. I have a picture but im not sure how to upload it.
     
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    I have the exact same heaters and found out something very interesting. If the arrow is pointed at lets say 25c, have a look at the little red thing (sorry not too sure what else to call it) behind the arrow. If it is moved to the right it will continually heat the water more than 25c and if it's to the left it won't heat the water properly. Since I moved it to directly in the middle all 3 of my systems don't budge off 25c.

    Sorry, if my explanation is a bit confusing but hopefully this can help.
    If not, pm your details and I can try explain over the phone maybe.

    I have got 4 of those heaters and none of them worked properly until learn't that little trick :)
     
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