Have you tried UV in your system?

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  1. Idol Marine

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    Dear Idol Reefer.

    We all know that the dreaded WHITESPOT and PARASITES (that have indirect life cycles), are a problem in all our systems.


    Have you ever considered the installation of a UV system?
    We are not talking about a UV unit that isn’t effective (certain procedures and rules need to be followed).

    We have installed UV systems into many of our client’s tanks, which has cleared their white spot and given them piece of mind.


    Depending on your system, you will need a certain amount of units, with accurate flow dynamics.

    Make the right choice and don’t be caught off guard, protect the lives of your fish and your investment.

    We follow the TMC UV standards guidelines.


    Here are two systems that use our custom installed UV lights







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  3. simonmcgill

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    Out of curiosity why would you recommend uv over ozone. I am not technical enough to know difference so thought I should ask the question for all of us to learn.
     
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    Do your uv systems have any negative effect on the pod populations trying to multiply?
     
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    No, not in the slightest.

    O3 needs a controller, and in our marine tanks it can only be used as a water clarifier. You would need a redox of around 600mv to kill any parasite or pathogen in your system (contact time is also very important), but this will also kill all your fish and corals.
    UV, on the other hand, IF DONE CORRECTLY, will render the parasites ineffective as it changes their DNA structure; making them unable to reproduce.

    UV is safe, effective and excellent for what it does, again, IF DONE CORRECTLY.
     
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    Of course then for us to assume the UV will be effective we have to assume the parasite flows through the UV and doesn't hatch off the substrate and find a host before it gets a chance to be exposed to the uv....this imo is a very real risk we have to accept in a closed system
     
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    Can you guys explain the maintenance and replacement times on the uv lamps.
     
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    So by contact time you mean that expanded or series of tubes you have running?

    How does one work that out?
     
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    Eventually, the numbers will dwindle as they will not be able to reproduce. I have UV in my system and can verify to it's effectiveness.

    Lights should be changed every year, cleaning of the quartz sleeves done every two months.
    Working out the number of tubes is something you will need to discuss with Idol Marine. They follow TMC principles.
     
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    I'm new to this but how can uv only change the DNA of parasites and not that of pods?
     
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    Pods have direct life cycles on your rocks, and surfaces. WS has an indirect life cycle that lives in the water and gets taken up into the UV system.
     
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    Can pods not swim though the UV
     
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    Pods are mini crustaceans. They are multi cellular organisms with a skeleton that provides a degree of protection. Ask koi enthusiasts , uv will not control larval anchor worm or fishlice (both crustaceans). Crypto is unicellular and is relatively " naked" and therefore vulnerable to uv at the dosages in question . A single celled organism is also alot more vulnerable as damage to the nuclei necessarily affects the whole organism.
     
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    uv

    so can I run uv with pellets or zeovit systems?
     
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    Yes, you can run UV with pellets. I have pellets in my tank and they work perfectly with UV.
     
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    Where can i get these standards @Idol Marine..:)
     
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    On TMC site and product page
     
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    white spot on a healthy fish is not detrimental to its existence, you feed it well and it will survive, however UV would be useful on say a hospital or on a quarantine tank.

    This should actually become a standard for all Fish sellers to have on their display systems. Livestock coming from all over, it would help the fish keeper by providing them with a sound understanding/knowledge that the fish they purchase are without illness, and would save the fish keepers from having an additional setup of sorts within the living space at home, to provide more space for keeping fish or coral instead of trying to keep the fish, just bought, alive.
     
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    Sorry, but you are wrong. UV in your main system will keep your fish healthy. Especially from parasites that have a indirect life cycle. Reefers need to start learning that doing things correctly from DAY ONE, will give you less heartache in the future.
    What happens to fish is that they start acquiring an inherent immunity to WS in your tank, WS will always be there. Add a new fish, and you will get WS on the new fish.
    The cycle needs to be destroyed.
    UV doesn't kill the WS, it changes the DNA/RNA structure, thereby making it unable to reproduce.
    Yes, a UV system would be very beneficial in a hospital tank, but why limit it there? WS is found on the corals you buy. You will need to quarantine those as well.

    The problem is that many do not follow proper guidelines when it comes to UV, installing systems that do not have the correct flow characteristics or have enough UV globes for their systems.
     
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    @carlosdeandrade you got a link to the details around what the flow dynamics need to be for the TMC UVs'?

    I will have a flow meter before and after the UV's just want to make sure its the right flow as per their guide line.
     
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