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    @2una
    Ok, done the Hanna Phosphorus Check - do this as it is ppb rather than Phosphate at ppm - and the reading is 47ppb that according to the conversion chart is now sitting at 0.15

    What would you recommend in do ito liter water change?

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    It won't be such a potential issue if your po4 isn't really 0.5 swapping with 0 po4 water... If it were me i'd just go with some 25% changes a few days apart & let things slide the way you want them too.
    Are you running po4 remover? I've previously built up to 100g per 100L with the AF phos minus & things behaved ok but i did step that much quantity up in a couple of steps. Your rocks will probably he holding so it'll maybe take quite awhile to get it down.

    Are you getting some consistent answers with the checker?
    I think they had bad reagents a while ago & gave up on it as the readings were bouncing all over the show
     
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    Cool - thanks - apologies again for the confusion on the 0.5!
    I will do 25% now and then on Saturday and see how it goes.

    I am running ATI GFO and have been running Phosguard but have changed to Phospha-Guard Bio Cubes about a week in (still establishing).

    I have enjoyed the Hanna Checker thus far....seems very stable. Much better than eyeing the Salifert colour chart...
     
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    Yeah the saliferts pretty impossible , sounds like the hanna reagents might be back on track again then if your happy.
    I hadn't seen those phospha cubes before, be good to see how you get on with them
     
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    I will definitely keep you posted...also keen to see the result - having had raving reviews on it.

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    P0 of 0, 15 doesn’t make for happy SPS.

    Once things have settled down after the water change maybe consider running some GFO in a reactor while you waiting for those cubes to kick in.

    Just don’t overdo it. Start with 250ml to 500 liters of water and change weekly until you get to 0,05 or somewhere there.

    SPS react badly to sudden drops in PO

    Maybe test your RO top up water PO as well. Despite my TDS meter giving me a zero reading, if I haven’t changed the cartridges for a while I get a readings of PO and Nitrate in my RO water.

    Took a going through a lot of GFO before I worked that out.

    When all else fails reduce the bio load and remove a few fish. It’s a constant battle if you have lots of big fish.

    Good luck, very frustrating when it goes wrong and you loose corals like that, makes you want to pour jik in and give it all up.
     
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    Thanks for the advice Adrian, will do!
     
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    Just a possibility to consider D
    the new ones are going omg you just dropped me in a sewer - i came out of the ocean at po4 <0.02
    but the older ones are now browned up & dialed in on the high po4 so to drop you need to do it gently.
     
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    Thanks man 2una - will do the best I can to get it all back in form....just hope I don’t have more losses!!
     
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    Agree vir @2una, if I look at the photos of your surviving SPS, there is not much polyp extensions on most of them so they are stressed as it is so whatever change you make, make it in small steps not to stress them out any further.
     
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    Hello guys....after the water change things are getting there....Po4 reduced to 0.09!

    All else in the tank is spot on.
    KH 10
    Mg 1350
    Ph8.2
    Ca 450
    Nitrate 5
    Fe still 0 Cannot get the sera test kit - been all over (stopped dosing week back) will use yelloe Milli as the Canary ;)


    Thanks for all the advice....will keep pushing down slowly!

    PS: I got rewarded for all my efforts with a 2nd Red Ricordia baby :slayer:

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    Things are starting to settle in the tank and I am delighted to see some positive polyp extension and colour returning! Patience....man, not one of my strong points but have to admit that nothing can (or should) be rushed in this hobby..... I will continue with my efforts to get my Po4 down to 0.03 as this seems to be the only thing in the tank that is not on par... but coming down every day round 0.01....Vasbyt!

    Here are some pics taken this morning... Holding thumbs and crossing fingers that it is finally now on the right path :whistling:

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    This past weekend I got some frags from fellow reefers - Stunning and cannot wait for them to settle in with the rest... Thank you Warren and Archie - I will keep you posted on progress :w00t:

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    Nice, looking much better. A reduction in PO does wonders.

    Whats your flow like? I find the more flow the better the polyp extension. Only irratating thing with lots of flow is trying to get your sand to stay in place.

    If it is staying in place you probably don't have enough flow!

    When you bored google Jason Fox signature coral videos, they is one where he gives a talk on his tanks. The man knows what he is doing.
     
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    Sorry should have mentioned to much direct flow in any LPS can rip their flesh off so just keep them out of high flow spots. Makes it hard to keep SPS and LPS together.
     
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    Hey Adrian! Thanks man...relieved is one way of putting it!
    My flow - I have 6 x MP40s running Long-Pulse intermittently (2x on the back then 2x/2x from both sides...and so on). This is also supported by a 18000L Reef Octopus Blaster - closed Loop at the bottom - to address the depth.
    I have turned most down and sure I can increase it some - at the risk of others (chalices) that don’t prefer very strong flow. One good thing, the sand stirs and remains bright white with no dead-spots - but not blowing away.

    Will look at increasing the top MPs some more - slowly ;)

    PS: thanks for the tip - will seach up on the Jason’s videos!
     
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    Quick update....after the recent Po4 frustrations, I am down to 0.04 and the results are truly remarkable....
    There is a huge improvement in the coral colour and the growth.... Thank you for all the advice!

    Now I can get back to updating you on the SPS :thumbup:

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    Your cheating - your supposed to use 1 vial not 2 :biggrin: if it works it works i guess
    Nice to hear its back in the zone
     
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    :w00t:
    The one on the left was yesterday’s....always test with single vial to ensure same sample ;)

    I am Officially Back in the ZONE! Thrilled!
     
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    Grrrrr hier is hy. Thanks

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