Gorgonian / Menella ID please

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  1. Jaco Schoeman

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    Hey guys...

    I have searched google from pillar to post, and I just can not find any ID on the two gorgonians I have in my tank. Can anyone assist me please? They are both in excellent shape and they are growing, but I would just like to put a name to them:

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    And then this baby, it has VERY small polyps, about 0.5-1mm max. It has a pinkish purplish color under whiter light, yet here it looks blue from the actinics. This is a VERY petite and fragile, and when the polyps are extended it looks like snow or wool on the gorgonian:

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    Thanks in advance...
     
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  3. mnd123

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    No idea Jaco, sorry, but wonderful pictures
     
  4. Steven

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    Hi Jaco

    Pic 1 is Menella and it originates from east Africa or Indo-west Pacific.
    Pic 2 looks like Guaiagorgia from Indonesia which normally has that blue-ish color and is also non=photosynthetic.

    I hope this helped!

    Steven
     
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    We get these ones here by us too
     
  6. Jaco Schoeman

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    Thanks Steven. Found a great document on them, but the photographs I managed to get is all microscopic images of the gorgonian - I will try and find a better image to verify.

    I have also done a little more research myself, and found a site (then lost it again :p and now seraching for it again) that recons it could be a Black Gorgonian. They have a photo of a specimen looking exactly like miny, just orange. I read there that the skeleton of the gorgonian is black, and the tissue where the polyps come out from is quite light, and you still see the black skeleton beneath it. I checked mine last night and it complies with this...

    If I find that site again I'll post it, and then i will also research your names Steven - THANKS once more...
     
  7. seank

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    Jaco, you sure the 1st one is not this??

    Swiftia sp.

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    And the other one is a purple brush (
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    And this is some inspiration for you, seeing you like these non photosynthetic corals so much- As do we;)

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  9. Jaco Schoeman

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    Thanks guys... Yes, the "bigger" one is definetly a Menella.

    Sean I also thought it could be a Swiftia, but the swiftia branches are too thick. See the very bottom image here on how fine my gorg branches really are... ;)

    But... I think myself and Steven cracked it... We went through a book yesterday and saw a Gorgonian looking my nine. They even state that it has multiple color in one specimen (just like mine...) I never took the name of it, so Steven, if you would be so nice as to just post the name and that description of it for me again? ;) I also told Steven I'd post better images of it, so here you go. I really put some effort in taking these photos last night.

    First photo shows more the true color of it:

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    This second photo shows the different colors in the one specimen:

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    Here (even though I dont like metal in the tank) I compared the size of the branches and polyps with the tip of a pin. It REALLY is very small:

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    Cool, glad you could id it:thumbup:
     
  11. Steven

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    Hi Jaco

    The name is Acabaria.

    Nice Pic's!
     
  12. Jaco Schoeman

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    Thanks Steven!!! Seems to be specifically a Acabaria Delicata... :thumbup:
     
  13. Jessica-lee409

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    Hello

    Hello, I am new to this site and would like to speak to steven about some gorgonians I have gotten recently that I havent be able to Identify, Steven if you could send me a PM please and thank you :)
     
  14. Gesiggie

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    Hi Jessica-Lee
    Welcome to MASA
    Do you perhaps have an idea of what Steven's username could be?

    You could also post a pic of the gorgonian to be id'd, maybe someone else on here can help as well?
     
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    I think he is already refering to the username...? @Steven ..?
     
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  16. Gesiggie

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    Could be, But there are 8 possible matches to steven in the database, and the one you are referring to (the sponsor) have not been online in a month, and have not posted in 8 months...
     
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    Yes...I saw...I concluded that it could be the Sponsor Steven as he ID'ed the Gorgonian..with the last post and was Thanked..logic would make it that Sponsor..? Either way...there are many Members here..Jessica should just start a ID Thread and we'll help ID...:blush:
     
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    About ID'ing my Gorgonians

    Lol yes Im sorry as I tried to mesg him, but being new to the site it wouldnt allow, me until I posted something, so I fiqured Id just have him mesg me. And yes I was refering to the Steven above, as I am wanting the proper ID's for my 2 gorgonians I have, I have been tired of researching and not coming to a clean answer, I fiqured have he had correctly answered aboved to help the other member to ID their Gorgonian, I would ask him for help, But anyone who can proper ID them for me would be very helpful :)

    First I have a large Light Purple Gorgonian, with light purple base with purplish pink polyps, its very soft, moves every bit with the water, when it was moved to the tank, (coming out of the water it old in, like it needs to water to suport its branches out) has small polyps

    And second I have a Large Dark Purple Gorgonian, more structural doesnt fold or wave around like the other.

    If anyone can properly Id these two that woud be great :), Im looking to know the different species of gorgonians for my seahorse tank, as they adore them and are completly safe for them :), I know they are refered to as whips, fans, and so on, but what exactly are the different types?

    Anyone that can help thanks :)

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  19. MistaOrange

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    Firstly mount those gorgonians as those polyps againt the LR may die off. I'LL get cracking on the iding of the two gorgonians.
     
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    Yes we just got them, an are planing to glue them to rocks so they will stand with no issue. So non of their branches and polyps can touch the LR? just the base at the bottom that is holding it

    Im also looking to know i they can touch eatchother, or do they stink one another like other corals? As they dont have a sting to the seahorses, im wondering if they will harm eachother
     
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    Good :thumbup:

    Rather not have them touch as they'll irritate eachother & the weaker one will die off where they are touching.
     
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