Go big or stay home?

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  1. Aurora

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    Hi guys and girls.

    I have a 1220 x 500 x 450 tank.

    I am thinking of going to a 3000 x 650 x 650 tank.

    Anyone got any pros or cons for going bigger?

    Cheers.
     
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  3. RiaanP

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    the bigger, the more it costs.

    Biggest extra costs are more lights, bigger skimmer and lots and lots more liverock
     
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    If the budget allows; then why not? :thumbup:
     
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    @Nemeziz_za Has a huge tank. I know he can give you some expert words.
     
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  6. Aurora

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    Yea I know cost are going to increase for setup.

    Lights not an issue. I can make one at my factory.

    What would approx cost of a skimmer for this size tank be?

    Would running costs be a lot higher than current tank ?

    Have heard that larger tanks are more stable is this true?
     
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    Greater margin of safety.
     
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    Greater heating and cooling costs.
     
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    The bigger the tank, the more stable. But not really. You will have a lot more fish and will feed a lot more. Small tank, 10 small fish, set amount of food. Big tank 10 BIG fish, a lot more food. So although you got a lot more water, you do add a lot more nutrients to the tank.

    Electricity cost will be higher, more pumps, lights, heaters, etc.


    Water changes, if you do them, will be bigger, and more expensive. If you rather depend on dosing, then you will dose more chemicals, also a lot more expensive.
     
  10. Aurora

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    Is there a compromise?

    Say a 2000 x 500 x 450?

    Less cost still use most of existing rock and hardware?

    Will i be able to do a lot more with a 2000 than my 1200 at close to same costs?
     
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    if you got the space and budget, then why not. But note, that the equipment will be a lot more expensive.
     
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    Agreed 200%.
    Used to load R500.00 every 4-5 days. Now that the tank is dormant with the make over, we load R500.00 uhhhm, come to think of it, have only loaded R500.00 a week and a half ago.

    Try about R2000.00 average per month and a half
     
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    from experience I can tell you that a tank this size will cost you at least 100k and that's even considering that you will go DIY with the lights.. and that's excluding most livestock. you can try go with second hand hardware to cut cost.. but the problem with that is that you might not be able to get what you want right when you need it..
     
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    some examples..

    chiller for your tank at least............... 12k
    skimmer (RO 5000ext)....................... 10k
    initial salt roughly............................... 4k
    tank (12mm glass).............................. 30k +
    live rock (+/-200kg @100 per kg)..... 20k
    stand for the tank................................ 5k
    return pumps (2x 5000lph RO).......... 7k
    glass for sump.................................... 2k
    few reactors ( kalk, media etc)........... 10k
    pipes and other bits............................. 1k


    this is a far estimate and some of this prises can be inaccurate but will give you a general idea of what you are looking at.. all this is based on my friends tank which is 2m x 1m x 0.7m
     
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    Yip, agreed, but that is still a once off or things bought over a period. Then one still need to add all the monthly costs eg, electricity, water (to make RO water, waste a lot of water), food, additives, and the big thing..... Time spent at home, not going away etc.
    Would I say it is worth it........ Every cent.... :thumbup:
     
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    yes of course once you hooked onto marines money becomes nothing but a number.. at the same time I would say that if one can spend 150k on a fish tank two or three thousand a month should not be a problem.. don't go and buy a cellphone for 8 grand and then come telling me you don't have money for airtime :)
     
  17. Aurora

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    Hi guys

    Did some research of my own today and your prices seem to be close to what i got today.

    Didn't expect such an exponential increase in price with increase in size.

    Think i will "settle" for a 1500 x 650 x 650 for now.

    Will still be able to do more than current tank without having to rob a bank to do so.

    Thanks for all your input.
     
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    If i may suggest, rather go fir 1.6Lx 0.8W x 0.6H, it offers more options in terms if scaping. Rather sacrifice a bit of length for depth.
     
  19. Aurora

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    Wil go wider then and give up n little depht.
     
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    What lights you going for?
     
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    Looking at a quad t5 setup. I will design and manufacture my own housing.

    Looking to run 2 white one blue and a pink tube?

    Thoughts?
     
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