Giant Clam Health

Discussion in 'Invertebrates' started by Warr7207, 17 Mar 2008.

  1. Warr7207

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    I am very interested in getting info on what healthy clams should look like and what conditions must be provided for a healthy unit.

    Kanga posted this:

    "Also the Clam does not look that happy either:( and it would be difficult to provide enough lighting and stable enough water parameters for it in a nano (not impossible just very difficult)"
    Quinton's new (and somewhat empty) Nano - Marine Aquariums of South Africa

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    jacquesb Retired Moderator

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    Warr - just my opinion on this, though - I now have 2 x clams - and so far they are both growing (the one only started showing grow new, as I have only had it for about 3 weeks)....

    My opinion is as follows:
    - as long as the mantle does not show discoloration, tears, clear open wounds, etc - I think that these are some of the "signs" of bad health
    - also: if the "mouth" is not extremely gaping (MUCH bigger than normal) - then this could (according to me) be interpreted as healthy or not healthy

    Clams generically require the following to survive (once again - according to me):
    = good enough water quality (not too high nitrates/phosphates)
    = high calcium levels
    = enough POC's in the water (particulate compounds) to "feed" the clam/s -as they are filter feeders - they require filter food (NOT TARGET FED!)
    = strong enough light to allow the zooxanthellae in the mantle to generate enough "energy" for the clam to live/survive

    Just my opinions/2 cents worth...
     
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    i found that my clams picked up amazing colours when i had i phosphates and nitrates.
    this could be due to them making use of these?
     
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    Agreed they compete for the same nutriets as algae.
     
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    so we shouldnt have to many clams in a system as they may consume all the avaliable nutrients quicker than they become avaliable. is this true or am i being to drastic?
     
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    Think you are being a bit drastic. I suppose it will depend on the size of the system, still they will have to be huge and plenty.
     
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    i have a big tank, i have lots of algae can i have some clams?? (ok i am teasing I know thelights, water etc is no where near ready) but the idea of something so beautiful making life for algae harder is very attractive:)
     
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    Hi Crispin - IF you have the rest of the formula correct, then YES. I actually read of some people who "use" clams as biological filtration systems. Because they break down POC's by "using it as food", before POC's can actually break down to nutrients.

    And YES - I am quite sure that clams will also use dissolved nutrients in the water as well (just like any other invertebrate in the tank, ie. anemone's, corals, shrimps, crabs, etc....)
     
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    You guys are hundred percent right about them using/filtering Phosphates and nitrates the same as algae, however I reckon in all but the most well maintained nano's there should be any clams, first off lighting is a problem (Crocea needs slightly less I believe)
    But Maxima and Squamosa need more lighting.
    Secondly water parameters generally not stable enough in most nanos, (not talking about Nitrate and Phos here) Mostly Calcium and Alk as clam consume these very fast, also I believe they would not tolerate Ammonia or Nitrite


    p.s. Alfie that clam in your avatar looks stunning:thumbup:
     
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    Also I forgot to mention, Clams take a very long time to die, so the fact that a clam has lived for a few months in a tank does not mean it is happy.

    I have seen Clams in an LFS tank where corals died in a week but clams took 8 months to die:(
     
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    jacquesb Retired Moderator

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    Thanks Kanga! That's a VERY good point! I must say - my 1st clam is now more than a year old, and has grown just about 5cm in this time! My second one is now 3 weeks "old" (in my tank, that is).... And as far as I know, it looks happy...
     
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    Jacques, I think the rule of thumb is this, if they are growing they are doing well, slow/no growth would normally indicate poor health/dying

    So the fact that you have growth means it OK:thumbup: lets have a :peroni:
     
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    Cool! Have a Peroni on me mate! I think that you just answered Warr's question! ;-)
     
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    i have a clam in my jbj nano (pics in my thread [NCE] Shans nano - Marine Aquariums of South Africa ) and it is doing fantastic under the T5s. i do target feed it marine snow or coral frenzy once a week just to ensure it gets enough.

    besides what is mentioned above, i have been told that it shows its sick when it does not retract its mantel when you put off the light or cover it.

    also, a few weeks ago it ejected its foot but grew a new one to get a better hold
     
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    In my opinion, 3 of the best 'living' filters you could have in your system are clams, aiptasia and sponges.

    If I had the space I would add on 3 additional tanks to my system, one of them would be full of clams, the other would be full of aiptasia and the last would be in the dark to grow sponges.
     
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    OK, what is consider growth - 1mm every year ?
     
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    Different species of clams grow at different growth rates, it's also dependent on your water.

    Squamosa clams are a lot faster growing than the maxima for example, they get really big too.
     
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    You can see if your clam is growing by looking at the top of it's shell, underneath the mantle, you will see growth there in the form of new clean white shell.
     
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    Hi Warr - my squasmosa clam have grown +-4-5cm in a little bit more than a year....
     
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    jacquesb - what is your Ca & KH levels and what is your dosing routine.
     
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