Gavin's new tank to be

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  1. gavapotomous

    gavapotomous

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    Hello everyone, below are images of my proposed tank design.
    Moving into a new place this week, the garage is right next to the living room, so going to cut a hole in the wall and mount the tank inside the garage.
    The tank is going to be flush with the inside wall of the living room.
    It has been about 15years since my last little 4ft tank, so going to be a big learning curve.
    More excited about the new tank than the new house!

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  3. gavapotomous

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    and this is the proposed location.

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    Hi gavinleask,
    My last tank I had in KZN before immigrating to CT:tt2:
    was done in a similar way.
    Just a few notes to consider coz I used to pull my hair out.

     
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    Welcome to masa. Good luck with your build
     
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    Welcome to MASA!

    Looking forward to your build! Best of luck!
     
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  10. gavapotomous

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    Thanks @brentv that is a huge help. I was thinking of covering the sump and allowing all aeration to be done through the protein skimmer of which air supply I could filter.
    By covering the sump and tank with some clear perspex that would reduce evaporation and cause less fluctuations?
    Is this just not practical, as most people I see leave sump and tank uncovered.
    Would the covering over the DT cause too much light diffusion?
     
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    gavapotomous Thread Starter

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    Thanks @LCornelius, from all the reading on the posts it looks like sometimes a lot of luck is needed. Doing my best to research all aspects.
    I am going very simple to start off with and then can add complexity later.
     
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    Lot of reasons why people don't cover the DT and Sump.
    Firstly yes salt creep and water evaporation do cause lesser lighting lumen over your corals, but more importantly your surface agitation causes unwanted gasses out into the air column.
    Have a google around looking at rimless cubes you will see the open top style with just the hanging lights is a good idea lots of access into the tank and gives a different appeal to closed in.
    I am busy designing my build at the moment 1500x 1200 x 650 water height in a 3 way view and building a small aquarium room in the garage. Have a check if that gives you ideas?
    Especially if you wanna have holding tanks for frags, quarantine for fish etc.
    My reasoning behind doing it this way is to have convenient access to everything electrical, plumbing etc.
    3 way view tanks are awesome:biggrin:
     
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    Is that a single or double brick wall? Should be double as it should be a firewall. Check the legal requirements for a wall between house and garage. Not sure you can cut that wall.
     
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    Nice size.

    Also want one J
    Keep sending the updates
     
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    Hey Riaan,
    The wall will definitely be a double brick firewall, but building a tank would not be a problem, as it won't have a problem of a fire actually burning through the glass and water. (Requirements are based on burn time) so a fire door for instance between a house and garage has to have an hour burn rating;)
    I still think looking at the spaceI would design the tank 3 side view in front of the wall with a small filter/aquarium room built into the garage:)
    Doesn't necessarily have to be built of brick and mortar, could be dry walling (cost effective)
    Again each to their own, just what I would do having the back to back space:biggrin:
     
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    Moved in this weekend, and yes it is a double brick wall.
    I will get a mate who is a civil engineer to advise and sign off if he is happy, not going to take any risks there.
    Ordered my LED lights too, so they are on there way.
    Getting a mixture of the CREE XP-E Royal Blues, Cool Whites and a few Warm Whites and UV's.
    Read alot about PAR and the right spectrum of light needed etc.
    LED's seem to have nailed the 400nM range.
     
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    Designing my sump at the moment. Thinking of splitting the DSB in half down the middle and adding different sand from different locations to each half. This way possibly avoiding a monoculture forming in just one.
    Does anyone have comments, most people only have a single compartment DSB, is there a good reason for this?
     
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    you mean your good mate danimal ordered your lights
     
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    @RiaanP , I am trying to finalize (for now) my sump. I read some articles on DSB or DLSB but I am confused as to why everyone states mechanical filtration first then biological?
    Most systems have a protein skimmer first then DSB.
    I understand that we don't want to clog the DSB, but won't a good skimmer strip all nutrients resulting in an ineffective DSB?
    Being a closed loop type system with high throughput, is there really a first or last stage as it is a continuous process?
    What about just filter sponge before the DSB.

    Thanks for any help or pointing in the right direction.
     
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    it is a bit of a catch 22. You want your skimmer to take out all it can. But you want copepods running around in your DSB and refugium chambers. So how do you feed the copepods if not food and waste get to them?

    With internal skimmer you do get some food bypassing the skimmer that feeds the next chamber.

    Also partly why I do not use filter socks. And its just another maintenance item and I'm lazy. I do have a bit of settlement in the main DSB, noticed that last night. Will add 3 small hermits and they would sort that out.
     
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    That's what I meant, I didn't want to expose your ability to create the best marine lighting in the world on MASA in case you could not keep up with the demand :thumbup:
     
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