Freshly mix salt water parameters

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  1. butcherman

    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Who here checks the Water parameters of the fresh salt water befor they do a watercahnge?
     
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    The only thing I check is salinity but a decent salt wont require testing
     
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    i dont do WC :) incase the params are wrong, hehe
     
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    I was watching a vid on MR Saltwatertank . com

    He recomends testing CA ALK MG etc of new batches or brands of salt so you know what your putting in.
     
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    only salt level.
    temp does not matter. 5 degree difference on 10% water change does not have an impact.
     
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    butcherman Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Your just showing off now :tt2:

    for us normal folk we need water changes :whistling:
     
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    i am a normal folk :)

    the most important for me would be salinity, ph and alk
     
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    butcherman Thread Starter Moderator MASA Contributor

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    I gather from it was that you test the parameter of a new batch or brand befor you put it in the tank so you can detect a problem befor it starts and you will know how the new bartch or brand will affect your tank.
     
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    The testing of freshly made up water will result in false readings. Newly made up water has not balanced out chemically. This is especially true for for salt mixes that are high in ca and mg because ammonia is produced. The aeration of the mix is to release this ammonia.

    We test the RO water for TDS before make up and then the sg 24hours after makeup.
     
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    well obviouly you should test is after it has settled, ie after 24hours, sorry i forgot to mention it
     
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    I mix up 900l at a time. After I have made my 900l RO water I add the salt over 2 days. Then I let mix for another 2 days before I test and use. I test everything.
     
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    do you change 900l every WC, sims?
     
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    In my opinion there is no point in testing freshly made up water, apart from the salinity, as once you have placed the water into the tank it will all dilute and add to the elements/compounds already in your tank, wait 24 hours after the water has been placed in the fish tank then do your tests. To me it's a waste of a test from an expensive test kit. :p 99.9% of the brand name salt mixes on the market are all pretty good with regards to their make up, so nothing really to worry about.

    One important thing I do ensure I do first before mixing the salt with water is to shake or roll around the bucket or bag to mix the salt up, during shipping and storage you may find that some of the compounds that are heavier than others in the salt will tend to settle towards the bottom of the bucket, so a good shake up will mix the salt up nicely and distribute everything a bit more evenly and result in your make up water being more consistent.
     
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    @viper357 do you trust the manufacturers 100% to get it right 100% of the time?

    What Im thinking is maybe just test say a 20kg of salt once just to make sure its 100% right.

    I have heard that Shaking the salt befor mixing it is a good thing to do
     
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    Nope, there is always the chance of a failed batch, but I reckon they are pretty good at getting it damn near close enough to being 100%, which I am happy with, besides, I'm too paranoid about way too many other things, I can't be worried about my salt mixes now. :p

    If one of their parameters is off then it is a lot easier to adjust in the tank itself, doing small regular water changes allows for errors and slight mis-adjustments of parameters which are then easily corrected by dosing. If you were doing say 50 to 80% water changes well then it would be a different story and I would then suggest ensuring your make up water is as close to your tank water as possible.
     
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    Salinity and temp for me. Sometimes if I change salt brand I would test PH as well.
     
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    all this hastle and worry, that why i see no need for WC, the only time is when i fiddle and spill or need to top up volume after adding a reactor or something...

    if u dont like the fact i dont do WC dont moan, it wont work :tt2:
     
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    i didnt say anything :tt2: you sound like you been talking to Vatso :lol:
     
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    i knowyou didnt, but there are some that will try
     
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    A little advice. Bring earplugs tonight.:biggrin:
     
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