Flow and Substrate

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  1. pXius

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    Ok, so I'm picking up my 1.5MLX50WX70H tank on Monday.

    Most of my equipment has been decided on but I'm still stuck at the flow part.

    Will 2x "Boyu Wavemaker WM-1" in the center blowing to the sides

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    one in each corner blowing to the center do the trick? Should I be looking at something else?

    From what I read they are rated at 4000Lph, (guessed by most people as the true stats are not availble).

    (The tank will consist of 2 "mini reefs", 1 in each side of the tank with a open space in the middle, meaning most of my coral will be on the sides.)


    Also what return pump would you guys recommended?

    I will be using a reactor with NP reducing Bio-pellets instead of a DSB so not to worried about flow in that section.

    And finally substrate in the DT.

    I've read tons of threads and still not completely sold.

    Play sand vs aragonite?

    I like a fine "beach like" look, but would obviously want whats best for the inmates.

    (I want to future proof flow- so want to make sure its enough for SPS etc. in the future)

    Thanks guys/gals
     
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  3. butcherman

    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    i recomend placing them on the sides and blowing to the middle, but you might need a one or two additional pumps.
    If you can afford it argonite :thumbup:
     
  4. Johan van Aardt

    Johan van Aardt I love marines [R.I.P.]

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    ive had all the sands, to me the best is coral sand, its really fine and stays really white, it also doesnt make as bad sand storms as play sand. that being said aragonite is much more heavy and creates even less sandstorms.

    Please send me details on were you got your LED's

    also on the flow, what do you want to keep?

    i recommend at least 40 times turnover for in tank flow so you have to have at least 21000 liters/ph of flow.
     
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    pXius Thread Starter

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    Leds coming from Shop « « Aquarium Lighting | LED Aquarium Lighting Aquarium Lighting | LED Aquarium Lighting

    Look at their ''kits''' pretty much everything you need.


    Thanks guys, can you reccomend a return pump?

    Aragonite it is then :) how much will I need for those dimentions?

    I want to keep sps, lps etc, I want to make sure I can keep whatever I want should I change my mind or get a new Idea. I,d rather buy what I need now vs buying new equipment everytime I want to give something a go.
    :thumbup:
     
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    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    If you can afford it tunze 1073.05 with the safety connector and back up battery :thumbup:
     
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    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    if you plan on SPS you will definatly need to add a few more pumps to the wave makers... have you acctually bought the wavemakers?
     
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    Get aragonite seafloor grade :)
     
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    pXius Thread Starter

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    Nope, that why I'm here :)
    How about 2 of these now? For softies etc and another 2 when I get sps?

    Whats the flow rate on that pump? :tt2:
     
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    leslie hempel Moderator MASA Contributor

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    for the ultimate flow pumps look at Tunze, they are pricey but soo worth the cash when a rolls royce pump is called for, they are also a lifetime investment with excellent back up.. but this being said there are many pumps that can be employed, seio, AM Prop, boyu.. if it meets ther equirement for the job i see no reason not to use them..
     
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    pXius Thread Starter

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    Thanks Leslie!

    I haven't found an online supplier for the tunze yet so I'm leaning towards the OR3500, the rating and power consumption is very attractive.

    Combined with led lighting and the Skimz 181 which is also quite low on wattage I should save quite a bit on the Eskom bill (and keep a few hippies happy).

    A water turnover of 30-40 times my tank size is quite a bit more than I though I needed to keep SPS.

    Is the flow of 30-40 times for my DT size only?
     
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    How about these for flow?

    SEIO M1500 6,000l/h Powerhead 2 of them?

    I see allot of people using SunSun? How do they compare?

    Thanks
     
  13. Johan van Aardt

    Johan van Aardt I love marines [R.I.P.]

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    SEIO is good and last long but honestly if you want the best then get Tunze. buy sunsuns now and save up for the tunze if you have too. i remember seeing someone with tunzes fully encrusted with coral and they still worked.
     
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    Johan van Aardt I love marines [R.I.P.]

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    my one tank is 600 x 350 x 350 waterlevel at 320. and the glass is 10mm:whistling:

    i liked the look:blush:
     
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    leslie hempel Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Get hold of @George, you will find him in the sponsors section of the forum, he is Mr Tunze in SA..

    nothing wrong with getting something in the meanwhile and buying better later on. we all started that way. it will also give you a better understanding of why we aspire to better pumps..

    Sun Suns do the job and are cheap, but you get what you pay for. there have been a few problems with them (namelly the shaft corroding and in other instances the pump running in reverse actually sucking not blowing) but there are duds in everything in life.

    Seio is pretty established i the marine market and i see them being used worldwide.awsome pumps with very little failure but limited in controlability. i have used them extensivley and was very happy untill i wanted more out of the pump.

    Tunze/Vortech are pumps with a multitide of functions, read up on them and you will realise why they are the price they are, Tunze in particular is a work-horse, extreemly robust and practically bullet proof if basic maintenance is done periodically.
     
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    pXius Thread Starter

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    Bulletproof?! Haha will get some pistol shrimp then :p

    Will research some more today :)
    Which suppliers do you guys reccomend for tunze? Dont see them on the online stores...

    Thanks guys!
     
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    I love the vortech mp40 and if you put 2 of these you will be extremely happy with the flow. They dont take precious place in a display tank and dont transfer heat into the tank. They run on low watts and can be connected to a backup battery for power failures.
    The wave functions and lagoon and reefcrest are awesome. I know the tunze have a good reputation for quaility but the vortechs have the best reputation for inovation.
     
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    Contact george at Tunze
     
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    I now see what you guys meant by getting cheapo's now and saving up, bloody expensive even second hand...

    Think I'll get t 2x SEIO M1500 6,000l/h or SunSun's depending on whats better and start to save.

    SPS is looking less appealing to me anyway, looking at the LPS and softies route as I prefer the coral movement in the water.

    I would like something with random movements though.
     
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    I've now also been looking at the Boyu WM3 wavemaker (comes with 4 pumps),

    Just worried as it has no magnets...
     
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    There was a post some where about converting things to magnetic i dont know where though if mods could help
     
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